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EllisMorgan  <news@ellismorgan.co.uk> wrote:
> Most of the spam Ray filters out seems to come from Google Groups (GG).

That is true.  On the news server I maintain, 95% of all all articles
(across all news groups) are currently that spam originating from
Google Groups.  This has been going now for about four or six weeks.
(Well, you know yourself :-/ )

This has been a bad year for news server operators.  In summer, someone
started spamming many newsgroups with large illicet binary postings,
occasionally also switching user accounts.  These were quite easy filter
away, both based on their size (200+KB per article) und some consistent
header lines.

The GG spam is much more difficult to weed out.  The articles are small,
and the "From:" address very variable.  If I'd filter on "*@gmail.com",
that would do away with both Mike's and Stefano's article, too.  Not
good.

However, it looks like this problem will go away in 2 months.
Today, Google released this:

https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538

The top and bottom parts of this announcment:

	Google Groups ending support for Usenet

	If you work with Usenet groups in Google Groups, support for these
	groups is ending soon.

	What's changing?
	Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google
	Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups,
	subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content.

	[...]

	Why is Google Groups support for Usenet ending?

	Over the last several years, legitimate activity in text-based
	Usenet groups has declined significantly because users have moved
	to more modern technologies and formats such as social media
	and web-based forums. Much of the content being disseminated
	via Usenet today is binary (non-text) file sharing, which Google
	Groups does not support, as well as spam.

One might continue last sentence as "as well as spam, which originates
from our users and which we are unable/unwilling to stop."

For the well-being of my server (with currently 95% GG spam), I will
pull the google plug right now, "two months early".  Not based on
the From: address but on the "...@googlegroups.com" article ID;
i.e. you can conintue to use your @gmail.com address if you find
another news provider.   I can give you a home if all you need
are "the big 8" and de.all, and oh:  all the various J mailing lists
gatewayted into local newsgroups.

						Martin Neitzel

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    Re: end of comp.lang.apl? Curtis Jones <curtis_jones@ieee.org> - 2023-12-07 10:02 -0800
      Re: end of comp.lang.apl? EllisMorgan <ellis@ellis.invalid> - 2023-12-09 12:07 +0000
        Re: end of comp.lang.apl? Stefano Lanzavecchia <stefano.lanzavecchia@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 06:26 -0800
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