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Re: How to challenge a GCC patch?

Newsgroups	comp.lang.ada
Date	2021-09-29 12:04 -0700
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Subject	Re: How to challenge a GCC patch?
From	Emmanuel Briot <briot.emmanuel@gmail.com>

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> The lack of 'fairness' (my apologies if you find that word a bit strong) 
> is that GNAT pro users are suddenly the only ones who can use ASIS, 
> while a unique tool like Adacontrol (for code control quality) has 
> always been available equally to the Free and Pro communities...

I might have misunderstood Arno's point, but my understanding is that AdaCore no longer makes any patch for ASIS.
So whatever pro customers have access to (and ASIS was always a paying addon), the community also has access to by downloading the latest available sources.

The GNAT Pro compiler apparently is losing the capability to generate the tree information, just like the free version of the compiler.
If you want to use ASIS, my understanding is that you would have to do a separate "compilation" pass using the compiler from the dedicated branch just for the purpose of generating the tree files (and you can discard all the object files it perhaps generates at the same time). Then you can run ASIS tools.

This is for sure a pain for AdaControl maintainers and users, no one disputes that. On the other hand, if tree generation was indeed getting in the way of compiler improvements that benefit every one, I, for one, am happy to see the change.

> Perhaps Adacore could help the community and Jean-Pierre in this
> process? (targeted help, improved documentation, etc.)? 

I suggested in an early message that perhaps the community could build an ASIS API on top of libadalang, if there is a need for that.
I also suggested that libadalang documentation should be improved, I definitely agree with that one !

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How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-27 12:06 +0200
  Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Stéphane Rivière <stef@genesix.org> - 2021-09-27 13:23 +0200
    Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-27 16:18 +0200
    Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Arnaud Charlet <charlet@adacore.com> - 2021-09-28 00:38 -0700
      Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Stéphane Rivière <stef@genesix.org> - 2021-09-29 18:26 +0200
        Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Emmanuel Briot <briot.emmanuel@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 12:04 -0700
          Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-30 00:29 +0100
            Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 08:23 +0200
              Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-30 08:53 +0100
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 10:13 +0200
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-30 09:26 +0100
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 12:54 +0200
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-30 13:27 +0100
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 17:25 +0200
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> - 2021-09-30 19:37 -0500
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> - 2021-09-30 19:33 -0500
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> - 2021-09-30 19:30 -0500
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                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> - 2021-10-02 04:14 -0500
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-10-04 14:30 +0200
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> - 2021-10-13 20:48 -0500
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              Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-30 08:53 +0100
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                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-30 09:28 +0100
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 12:56 +0200
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-30 13:27 +0100
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 17:28 +0200
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              Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-10-01 11:24 +0200
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> - 2021-10-02 04:34 -0500
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-10-04 14:26 +0200
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> - 2021-10-13 20:40 -0500
                Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-10-14 08:04 +0200
      Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 07:57 +0200
        Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Arnaud Charlet <charlet@adacore.com> - 2021-09-30 00:29 -0700
          Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 09:52 +0200
            Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Arnaud Charlet <charlet@adacore.com> - 2021-09-30 01:21 -0700
              Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-10-01 11:56 +0200
              Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-10-01 14:29 +0200
            Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Fabien Chouteau <fabien.chouteau@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 01:28 -0700
  Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org> - 2021-09-27 13:48 +0100
    Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-27 16:20 +0200
      Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Emmanuel Briot <briot.emmanuel@gmail.com> - 2021-09-27 23:55 -0700
        Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "J-P. Rosen" <rosen@adalog.fr> - 2021-09-30 08:44 +0200
      Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? nobody in particular <nobody@devnull.org> - 2021-09-29 08:58 +0000
        Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Emmanuel Briot <briot.emmanuel@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 02:34 -0700
        Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org> - 2021-09-29 11:03 +0100
          Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@archeia.com> - 2021-09-29 12:03 +0100
            Re: How to challenge a GCC patch? Simon Wright <simon@pushface.org> - 2021-09-29 12:07 +0100
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