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Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length.

From Stone Fox <stone@unix.dog>
Newsgroups comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length.
Date 2025-03-02 21:34 +0000
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On 2025-03-01, IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> Lawrence Woodman <lorrywoodman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It would be worth submitting a patch to alter the client's display so that
>> it only takes 11 characters on the left hand side and makes the correct
>> calculation.
>> 
>> As to whether you should reduce your menu titles to 67 characters is an
>> interesting question and really points to how Gopher use has changed.
>> When I used it in the 90s it was mainly used to download files and
>> although I don't remember seeing this truncation I don't think it would
>> really have been that much of an issue as I don't expect many lines were
>> formatted in that way.  The formatting makes sense on your site and looks
>> nice - it is curious how the 'i' itemtype isn't truncated in the same way
>> by the client.
>> 
>> Perhaps submit a patch and see if it gets merged in.  Then wait until the
>> major distributions have updated their packages and revert to 69
>> characters.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> 
>> Lorry
>> 
>
> I'm not much of a C programmer and have very little experience using
> ncurses, but I wrote a patch today. It works for me, but YMMV:
> gopher://gopher.icu/0/files/0001-Removed-selected-item-indicator-from-left-margin-rep.patch
>
> It can be applied to the latest source tree from here:
> https://github.com/jgoerzen/gopher.git
>
> I also wrote a brief phlog post about it for anyone who wants more info:
> gopher://gopher.icu/0/phlog/Computing/UMN-gopher-revisited.md
>
> Here is a screenshot of it with the changes:
> gopher://gopher.icu/I/files/gopher-menu2.png
>
> If people feel that this is an improvement, then I may submit the patch.
> Any fixes or feedback gratefully received.
>

Dots only appearing at the end of line when it doesn't fit feels natural, so
I'd say its an improvement.

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UMN Gopher - menu title length. IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> - 2025-02-25 18:57 +0000
  Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. Stone Fox <stone@unix.dog> - 2025-02-26 21:29 +0000
  Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. Lawrence Woodman <lorrywoodman@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 09:03 +0000
    Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. Lawrence Woodman <lorrywoodman@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 09:35 +0000
      Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. Stone Fox <stone@unix.dog> - 2025-02-28 22:21 +0000
    Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:30 +0000
      Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. "Arti F. Idiot" <addr@is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:42 -0700
        Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-03-02 15:59 +1000
        Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> - 2025-03-02 10:58 +0000
          Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. jeojet@not.valid - 2025-03-02 16:13 +0000
            Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> - 2025-03-02 18:36 +0000
          Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. morena <morena@morena.rip> - 2025-03-03 20:39 +0100
            Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> - 2025-03-03 21:00 +0000
              Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. morena <morena@morena.rip> - 2025-03-03 23:42 +0100
                Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:04 +0000
      Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. Stone Fox <stone@unix.dog> - 2025-03-02 21:34 +0000
        Re: UMN Gopher - menu title length. IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:23 +0000

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