Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!nerds-end From: OrangeFish9737 Newsgroups: comp.compilers Subject: Re: Which comes first, languages or compilers? Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:02:43 -0400 Organization: Compilers Central Sender: johnl%iecc.com Approved: comp.compilers@iecc.com Message-ID: <23-10-013@comp.compilers> References: <23-10-008@comp.compilers> <23-10-011@comp.compilers> <23-10-012@comp.compilers> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="19513"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" Keywords: design, history, comment Posted-Date: 30 Oct 2023 10:33:24 EDT X-submission-address: compilers@iecc.com X-moderator-address: compilers-request@iecc.com X-FAQ-and-archives: http://compilers.iecc.com In-Reply-To: <23-10-012@comp.compilers> Xref: csiph.com comp.compilers:3540 On 2023-10-29 23:26, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > On 10/27/23 5:57 PM, Luke A. Guest wrote: > >> I don't really consider any of Wirth's languages to be designed as >> they would not have the gaping big holes they have. > > The *languages* are all well designed, system *libraries* are incomplete > or missing. I recall that Wirth also modified the language based on difficulty of implementation, i.e. compiler and language born together. OF [That was certainly the case with AlgolW and PL360. -John]