Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!nerds-end From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) Newsgroups: comp.compilers Subject: Re: Undefined behaviour, was: for or against equality Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:52:02 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien Lines: 17 Sender: news@iecc.com Approved: comp.compilers@iecc.com Message-ID: <22-01-033@comp.compilers> References: <17d70d74-1cf1-cc41-6b38-c0b307aeb35a@gkc.org.uk> <22-01-016@comp.compilers> <22-01-018@comp.compilers> <7f4f52f2-49ee-9e80-1f03-c3fb9c74f574@gkc.org.uk> <22-01-029@comp.compilers> Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="53753"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" Keywords: standards, semantics, comment Posted-Date: 08 Jan 2022 13:20:51 EST X-submission-address: compilers@iecc.com X-moderator-address: compilers-request@iecc.com X-FAQ-and-archives: http://compilers.iecc.com Xref: csiph.com comp.compilers:2809 David Brown writes: >Undefined behaviour, as far as language standards are concerned, are >omnipresent in programming - for all languages. Please prove this astounding assertion. My impression is that managed languages define everything, at least to some extent, and leave nothing undefined. If they allowed nasal demons, the appeal of managed languages would evaporate instantly. - anton -- M. Anton Ertl anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/ [Things like .NET define a lot but they still are at the mercy of their envronment when you ask for a variable sized chunk of storage. -John]