Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!novia!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.iecc.com!nerds-end From: Timothy Knox Newsgroups: comp.compilers Subject: Re: Looking for volunteers for XL Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:50:19 -0800 Organization: Compilers Central Lines: 18 Sender: news@iecc.com Approved: comp.compilers@iecc.com Message-ID: <11-11-063@comp.compilers> References: <11-11-048@comp.compilers> <11-11-053@comp.compilers> <11-11-054@comp.compilers> <11-11-061@comp.compilers> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.iecc.com X-Trace: leila.iecc.com 1322549490 60837 64.57.183.58 (29 Nov 2011 06:51:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@iecc.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: design, comment Posted-Date: 29 Nov 2011 01:51:30 EST X-submission-address: compilers@iecc.com X-moderator-address: compilers-request@iecc.com X-FAQ-and-archives: http://compilers.iecc.com Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.compilers:365 Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:45:11AM +0000, Kaz Kylheku wrote: > [Are you aware of anyone actually doing this? I agree that you might > expect extensible languages to be handy design testbeds, but somehow > other than in the Lisp community, it didn't work out that way. -John] Well, John, I think the Forth community provide another counter-example. Granted, I am not aware of any projects of hundreds or thousands of Forth devs, but some rather significant projects have been done in Forth by small teams. And lest folks think Forth as a philosophy is dead, you might want to see http://factorcode.org/ where the language is evolving in some very interesting directions. -- Timothy Knox Never trust a language where its users won't tell you that it sucks. -- Peter Corlett, on We Hates Software (about Python) [Forth is swell, but you can't extend its syntax the way you can in languages with BNF-based parsers and rewrite rules. -John]