Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.dougwise.org!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.iecc.com!nerds-end From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr=F6m=22?= Newsgroups: comp.compilers Subject: Re: New editor/Integrated Development Environment/compiler Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 00:17:12 +0700 Organization: Compilers Central Lines: 37 Sender: news@iecc.com Approved: comp.compilers@iecc.com Message-ID: <11-04-010@comp.compilers> References: <11-04-009@comp.compilers> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.iecc.com X-Trace: gal.iecc.com 1302460955 41822 64.57.183.58 (10 Apr 2011 18:42:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@iecc.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: tools Posted-Date: 10 Apr 2011 14:42:35 EDT X-submission-address: compilers@iecc.com X-moderator-address: compilers-request@iecc.com X-FAQ-and-archives: http://compilers.iecc.com Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.compilers:77 HiramEgl wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Hiram and I would like to know if somebody is interested in > joining the development of a new kind of editor/Integrated Development > Environment/compiler. > > I'm not happy with the current free (or open-source) alternatives that > I've found. I think that all those tools (Eclipse, NetBeans, QtCreator, > Emacs, Vim, ...) have in the bottom the same problem: they work with > directories, files and text. > I love threads like this - It will surely diverge quickly into an editor war, but before that happens.. An IDE imho is all about one thing - productivity ------ With that in mind can you give a clear language specific example how your idea will enable the developer to do something more efficiently and faster. In Fortran, C or C++ where do you think the most time is spent? For Java I found IntelliJ to really raise the bar in terms of being helpful and "intelligent". That level of language integration I think is a cornerstone to start with. From there figure out other usability elements which cause you to not be happy. Take $IDEOFCHOICE - strip the interface down and see what tasks you'd most commonly perform.. You need to clearly define the problem before you can really get to the root and solve it. Thanks ./C (Feel free to email me directly if you're willing to start from a QtCreator base and try to significantly improve certain aspects)