Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Keeping other stuff with addresses (was: What is an N-bit machine?) Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2025 17:39:13 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <86v7uy9epq.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <20241128185548.000031c9@yahoo.com> <2024Nov30.072829@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Nov30.123536@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Nov30.175756@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130193206.00005c49@yahoo.com> <2024Nov30.190858@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130202851.00005eca@yahoo.com> <2024Dec1.102826@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <86jzcjo1uw.fsf@linuxsc.com> <86zfkbaj3n.fsf@linuxsc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 02:39:14 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7d402e6f2d734b301f776925cc2bc076"; logging-data="3185766"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18p1PrEpY59zyzxNjsItVhk7zcDcbB/Dwk=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hbDzfX+HjDrWtOk9pFYMjS7YluE= sha1:AxRxLdFKcGGW0yhfJd/sUqa6L4Q= Xref: csiph.com comp.arch:110354 Thomas Koenig writes: > Tim Rentsch schrieb: > >> Thomas Koenig writes: >> >>> Tim Rentsch schrieb: >>> >>>> Thomas Koenig writes: >>>> >>>>> I think "ALU can add up to n-bit numbers" is a reasonable definition >>>>> for an n-bit architecture, which also fits the 16-bit 68000. >>>>> It does not fit the 360/30, or the Nova (but see de Castro's remark >>>>> on the latter). >>>> >>>> To me, the phrase "n-bit architecture" should depend only on such >>>> characteristics as are defined by the architecture, and not depend >>>> on features of a particular implementation. The 360/30 has a 32-bit >>>> (or is it 64-bit?) architecture, but only an 8-bit implementation. >>>> >>>> If I may add a personal note, it's disappointing that postings in a >>>> group nominally devoted to computer architecture routinely ignore >>>> the distinction between architecture and implementation. >>> >>> I'm well aware of that distinction. >> >> I expect most of the folks who participate in comp.arch are >> aware of the distinction. What I find disappointing are >> postings that ignore or blur the distinction, so it's hard >> to tell where one domain ends and the other begins. > > If you find discussions about how certain times were used > in the past disappointing... [..] That isn't what I said, nor was it what I meant.