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From: Tim Rentsch
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: Keeping other stuff with addresses (was: What is an N-bit machine?)
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2025 17:39:13 -0800
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Thomas Koenig writes:
> Tim Rentsch schrieb:
>
>> Thomas Koenig writes:
>>
>>> Tim Rentsch schrieb:
>>>
>>>> Thomas Koenig writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I think "ALU can add up to n-bit numbers" is a reasonable definition
>>>>> for an n-bit architecture, which also fits the 16-bit 68000.
>>>>> It does not fit the 360/30, or the Nova (but see de Castro's remark
>>>>> on the latter).
>>>>
>>>> To me, the phrase "n-bit architecture" should depend only on such
>>>> characteristics as are defined by the architecture, and not depend
>>>> on features of a particular implementation. The 360/30 has a 32-bit
>>>> (or is it 64-bit?) architecture, but only an 8-bit implementation.
>>>>
>>>> If I may add a personal note, it's disappointing that postings in a
>>>> group nominally devoted to computer architecture routinely ignore
>>>> the distinction between architecture and implementation.
>>>
>>> I'm well aware of that distinction.
>>
>> I expect most of the folks who participate in comp.arch are
>> aware of the distinction. What I find disappointing are
>> postings that ignore or blur the distinction, so it's hard
>> to tell where one domain ends and the other begins.
>
> If you find discussions about how certain times were used
> in the past disappointing... [..]
That isn't what I said, nor was it what I meant.