Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:37:46 -0600 Message-ID: <4F352BB3.30806@SPAM.comp-arch.net> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:37:39 -0800 From: "Andy (Super) Glew" Reply-To: andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net Organization: comp-arch.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Register file splits, a new look. References: <7z1uq4qpf4.fsf@ask.diku.dk> <21254419.964.1328818372560.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqad38> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 19 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-GHl6zZXZ0/EN4tInyeHcggQYOagGYeAW9kuB/kBjqtZwVtDoiGifylBSM/i7yLFiLrvnPbXEzMzkbZI!m6c4ld/rjVTy7Xgtzs/Dlr6P36hBhqPCs0wowscdBwTh5FNcZZs/VF4Bjhhx X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2318 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.arch:5861 On 2/10/2012 12:07 AM, nmm1@cam.ac.uk wrote: > In article<21254419.964.1328818372560.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqad38>, > MitchAlsup wrote: >> >> In several machines I have worked on, the register files (plus reorder >> buffers, and buffering) were bigger than the computational units >> attached to them! All of these were separate file machines. A lot of >> power is heading down this hole. > > Yes. It's one of the reasons that I think we should stop digging > and look for a way out. My understanding is that most of that is > to attempt to maximise the performance of serial, in-order code, > by making the low-level parallelism and out-of-order logic entirely > transparent. I think that's a mug's game, and the only solution is > to move to better ISAs which, in turn, needs us to move to better > programming paradigms and languages. If those "better ISAs" require significantly larger register files, then they may lose.