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> very poor, quite unusable.

You are not seriously expecting me to debug your code ?

CVSD 16kBit was used in the 70ies for military secure communication.
The then SpaceShuttle ADM ( = CVSD ) is a simple digital implementation, 
16kBit i guess.
Therefore at 16kBit CVSD is usable, but not for public phone system.
Initial circuits were analog:

https://get.hidrive.com/5gdAmSyB   cvsd-ptarmigan.pdf

The CML FX209 is an early integrated analog version:

https://get.hidrive.com/HhS2FWU4   cvsd-steele.pdf

The Harris HC55564 is a simple digital IC.

The CML FX609 is the next and final generation with PCM-like
filter that reduces high frequency noise.

We did use the Harris. On switching to the FX609 had a test with
all the employees in the company with handset what they liked
better: 90:10 for the FX609. The problem with "better" is that
everyone is accustomed to PCM-filtered speech.

All these ICs one can get via ebay.com from China.
Using 2 on breadboards one can build a simple channel that
"distorts" speech for testing. Reference would be an old
PCM-chip.

As for quality: the 64kBit PCM may be the gold standard,
but the cordless DECT phones use ADPCM at 32kBit
with hardly any loss of quality. This is not the
original CCITT-ADPCM that was very complex. But i still
doubt implementation on an AVR is easy.

CVSDs i did years/decades ago on PICs/68HC05.

MfG  JRD

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Voice compression pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2025-04-02 18:33 +0200
  Re: Voice compression Rafael Deliano <Rafael_Deliano@arcor.de> - 2025-04-02 19:55 +0200
    Re: Voice compression pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2025-04-03 19:53 +0200
      Re: Voice compression Rafael Deliano <Rafael_Deliano@arcor.de> - 2025-04-05 11:12 +0200
        Re: Voice compression pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2025-04-07 13:13 +0200
  Re: Voice compression Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-04 13:54 -0700
    Re: Voice compression pozz <pozzugno@gmail.com> - 2025-04-07 13:09 +0200

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