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Re: Question regarding an elevator

From vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups sci.physics, comp.ai.shells
Subject Re: Question regarding an elevator
Followup-To sci.physics
Date 2023-06-30 19:41 +0000
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:29:05 -0700 (PDT), mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, June 30, 2023 at 11:37:37 AM UTC-7, vallor wrote:
>> Thought experiment: 
>> 
>> Einstein's elevator. 
>> 
>> In an elevator sitting on the ground on Earth, gravity would be measured 
>> as higher near the floor than the ceiling, given sufficiently sensitive 
>> equipment. (1/d^2) 
> 
> The strength of gravity is equal in contractile curvature.
> There is no inner gravity drop off. Feynman was a problem
> where he replaced original GR by inner drop off.
> At a BH how can there be Feynman's inner drop off gravity?
> He said it would go to zero. So how could gravity in a BH
> do it?
> 
>> 
>> Accelerating the elevator at 1G, there won't be the difference in "gravity" from 
>> the ceiling to the floor. 
> 
> Accelerating is increased speed it is not the force of gravity.
> Motion is like force. It can get weight.

Thank you for the response, very much appreciated.

I was referring to the observation that Einstein made that one
couldn't tell the difference from within an elevator in either
situation.  I was pointing out that with sensitive enough instruments,
you can tell the difference.  The gedanken-experiment might
not hold up:

Perhaps the concept of "locality" might have something
to do with "how sensitive are your instruments"...  What do you think?

Thanks,

 -Scott

cc: comp.ai.shells, where the discussion first began
fu2: sci.physics

> 
> Mitchell Raemsch
>> 
>> What does that mean with regards to "locality"? Is that just a measure of 
>> how sensitive the instruments you're carrying are? Or...? 
>> 
>> (I am but an egg.) 
>> 
>> -- 
>> -v

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Re: Question regarding an elevator vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-06-30 19:41 +0000
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