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On 19/05/2023 01:19, Sn!pe wrote:
> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
> 
>> If a computer can fool 70% of judges in a five-minute conversation into
>> thinking it's a person, the computer passes the test. Would passing the
>> Turing test – something which now seems imminent – show that an AI has
>> achieved thought and understanding?
>>
>> From
>> <https://theconversation.com/chatgpt-cant-think-consciousness-is-something-entirely-different-to-todays-ai-204823>
>>
>> I invite all serious posters to participate.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nic <Nic@none.net>
> 
> Your .sig separator is broken.  

You should be aware that it is not only Nic's separator that is broken.
Nic is broken - has been for a long while. ('Nic' is short for
'nincompoop'.)


<snip>

> 
> Re: your question:  
> Does consciousness imply independent self-awareness?  

That was not his question. His (implied) question was 'Is passing the
Turing Test the same as having consciousness and awareness?'

No, and no. There is a large chasm between 'pretending to be a human in
conversation' and 'self-awareness'. I blame author of the article for
journalistic sensationalism.