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| From | Chicago Paddling-Fishing <jwn@ripco.com> |
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| Newsgroups | chi.internet |
| Subject | Re: Microcenter |
| Date | 2018-08-13 06:48 +0000 |
| Organization | Ripco Communications Inc. |
| Message-ID | <pkr9k0$3dc$1@remote5bge0.ripco.com> (permalink) |
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Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <jwn@ripco.com> wrote:
>> Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <jwn@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>> Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>>>>Chicago Paddling-Fishing <jwn@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-09-25, tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Cydrome Leader wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, dye wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ns7sgu$1th$2@remote5bge0.ripco.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chicago Paddling-Fishing <jwn@ripco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Anderson <mea@nospambradnylion.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article bje@ripco.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah but at least they are trying, look where Radio Shack is today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep in mind when MC opened (1997/98?), the computer market was totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from today. They need to keep changing shit to get people in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember Handy Andy? They tried to charge me $108 for a 12 pack of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fluorescent tube bulbs because the cashier thought it was $8/bulb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of $8/12 pack. Had to get a manager to figure that out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microcenter hasn't changed much since they opened. After a few years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening they became a better deal for a lot of things than that monthly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COD computer fair. Do they still do that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a gamer but it's obvious from posts, news articles and feeds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the game market is mostly "online" these days. I don't quite get what Steam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is, but it's obvious it's some pay to play system. That and all the console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines that only work over the net. With all that going on, I can't see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where carrying them in a store works anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe MC is trying to take a stab at Fry's, although I haven't been out to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one in Downers Grove (or wherever the hell it is) in a while, last time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was there they had a couple aisles dedicated to loose "parts". Seems like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a waste of floor space but who knows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a gamer either. I was looking for PS2 games in some bargain bin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but now PS3 are the bargain platform. Microcenter used to have those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bargain bins of random stuff that you could spend a lot of time looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through for something you might need and get it cheap. They don't do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They still have bargan bins (well, more like tables).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My big MC bargin bin score was circa 1998...someone had returned a Palm
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pilot 7, which was better than the Palm 5 I went to buy, but also
>>>>>>>>>>>> *included wireless celluar*. The people who returned it had
>>>>>>>>>>>> activated a data plan and it worked wireless for free for about a
>>>>>>>>>>>> year and a half.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that it was fast or anything, probably an analog cellular connection,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but this was living large in 1998.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hah!
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised they didn't cancel the account, but good for you!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had two different Palm devices, and while they were fun to have, and I
>>>>>>>>>>> could read my email on them, but looking back at them, boy, were they
>>>>>>>>>>> clunky compared to our smartphones.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe somebody here can remind me about all of this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What the hell was a palm even for? I don't recall anybody who ever had one
>>>>>>>>>> being able to explain what it really did other than looks real stupid
>>>>>>>>>> hanging off an belt next to a two way pager. I don't recall them even
>>>>>>>>>> having "basic functionality" like being able to exchange "electronic
>>>>>>>>>> business cards" or anything like that by pointing them at each other.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even those silly watches you'd link to your computer by letting the screen
>>>>>>>>>> flash made more sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I got a Palm III from work in 1998 or thereabouts. It had some infrared way
>>>>>>>>> of communicating with other Palm III's but I don't remember ever using that
>>>>>>>>> feature. I used it for playing games and taking notes. The Palm script was
>>>>>>>>> easy to learn and note taking wasn't too cumbersome. It had a backlight so
>>>>>>>>> you could see the LCD screen in the dark. It also had a flip cover that made
>>>>>>>>> it great for pretending you were on the USS Enterprise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sheeeeeit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My wife worked for 3Com back in the day (99-06?), so I cycled through a Palm
>>>>>>>> III, a IIIc (color screen!), a V, and a Sony Clie (their licensed clone of a
>>>>>>>> Palm that, of course, used Memory Stick instead of SD). Man, fuck Sony sideways.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could beam certain data between units via IR, but it was wonky as fuck.
>>>>>>>> Syncing it in a corporate environment was a challenge, but I do recall getting
>>>>>>>> it to work with Lotus Notes (yeesh) when I was at IBM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Back to my old question. What the fuck were you (or anybody really) even
>>>>>>>syncing? Buzzord bingo terms? Did those piece of shit even do some sort of
>>>>>>>off-line POP mail? I stil have zero understanding of why nerds used those
>>>>>>>things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Data... the goal is to never type the same thing twice... which included
>>>>>> backing up your contacts so if you reset the device they weren't all lost
>>>>>> although even back when I had the Franklan eBookman, I recall using a USB
>>>>>> cable to sync contacts back and forth (it had contacts and note taking
>>>>>> apps on it too and was pretty cheap back in 99 or so).
>>>>
>>>>>Still just not getting it.
>>>>
>>>>>Why the hell would you backup a contact list on a device bigger than an
>>>>>phone of the era?
>>>>
>>>>>Here's what it comes down to.
>>>>
>>>>>palm pilots were completely stupid devices for stupid people.
>>>>
>>>> They weren't stupid... they were much better than little scraps of paper kept
>>>> inside your pocket protector so you could move them easily from shirt to
>>>> shirt each morning...
>>
>>>Scraps of paper in pocket protectors? I think I've found the problem here.
>>
>>
>>>> Back then you just didn't have the digital bandwidth (actually I think it was
>>>> still analog signals at that time... when I worked at Motorola cellular in the
>>>> 80's it was all analog). Syncing with a USB cable in the 90's was a lot more
>>>> reliable than syncing with a watch flashing at a tube screen.
>>
>>>USB at any point in the 1990s was far less reliable than aiming a watch at
>>>a 14" CRT.
>>
>> I would tend to disagree. Perhaps you were syncing usb devices using a cable
>> that had been cut?
>yeah, that was it. Every usb cable was cut. It had nothing to do with
>every old implementation of USB chipsets being defective in addition to
>none of the drivers working properly, and that's not even counting the
>hardware on the peripheral side of things.
No doubt some intel USB chipsets were bad (ich5), but it depended on the
device how problematic it became;
My ICH5 worked fine until my M-I-L gave one of the kids a cheap binnocular
camera... then it smoked the motherboard.
http://pages.ripco.net/~jwn/tmp/ich5smoking.jpg
http://pages.ripco.net/~jwn/tmp/ich5hole.jpg
>>>Is this a website you maintain?
>>
>>>http://www.faughnan.com/palm.html
>>
>> Not I (opted not to visit it)... The sidekick was a neat device too in its
>> day, but these days I prefer android.
>Were you scared there were 8 bit virues on that site that might cause the
>nicad cells in your palm to blow up or something?
I've always trusted my anti-virus software.
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