Path: csiph.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Sylvia Else Newsgroups: aus.cars,aus.electronics Subject: Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 21:43:43 +1100 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <6572389d@news.ausics.net> <6572b519@news.ausics.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net Uvf5eMr6FST5h1q/msc8mAVQvktuuubFq4Uwa9CVBKi4mzWp+5 Cancel-Lock: sha1:mNPPxAKl43lc0BhV0M7aA7PPGeI= sha256:ee/sabvlkFF6y8oFnRS2syh0/ldmYHAI3tw2m+rky6A= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <6572b519@news.ausics.net> Xref: csiph.com aus.cars:363061 aus.electronics:35680 On 08-Dec-23 5:18 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > In aus.electronics Xeno wrote: >> On 8/12/2023 8:26 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>> In aus.cars Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> If you like wall-warts everywhere, then fine. >>> >>> Huh. I can see a few reasons why I wouldn't like a DC pedestal fan, >>> but I honestly never thought that anyone would be bothered by the >>> meer presence of a plugpack on a wall. >>> >>> I suppose they can be awkward to use with extension lead though, >>> which a fan could often be used with. >>> >> Wall Warts are a PITA. The company buys in a heap of wall warts that are >> already Aus certified for 230V so they don't need to have the fan itself >> certified. Cheaping out is all it is. > > Sure, my fans are all AC ones with chunky knobs to turn, so the > idea of DC seems like extra complication to me wherever the PSU is. > > Besides the certification issue, plugpacks also allow them to use a > cheap low-voltage cable running to the fan. But the cable has to handle a higher current, and will use more metal, even if it uses less plastic. It's not clear that there's a saving there. Sylvia.