Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!news.informatik.hu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: aus.electronics Subject: Re: OT: Snowy Hydro Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 03:14:54 +1100 Lines: 103 Message-ID: References: <58cbb853$0$10743$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> <9af1dc9er1j7g3gp2p3docm3rk7a42198m@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net K2K9tra5cuKMVOmrfc7D2wfYqiHEnfstrJJdXT7ORb2Scxa0c= Cancel-Lock: sha1:xSCQnS3Hsjpi1BL32lEuYjMeJ/Q= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com aus.electronics:33099 "keithr0" wrote in message news:ek1lgeF9hk5U1@mid.individual.net... > On 3/29/2017 6:21 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >> >> "Jasen Betts" wrote in message >> news:obfe1n$49l$2@gonzo.alcatraz... >>> On 2017-03-28, Rod Speed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jasen Betts" wrote in message >>>> news:obed3i$v3r$2@gonzo.alcatraz... >>>>> On 2017-03-28, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "keithr0" wrote in message >>>>>> news:ejv3nnFodakU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 3/28/2017 10:06 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>> Trevor Wilson wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IMO the federal govt should be spending whatever it takes to keep >>>>>>>>>> Hazelwood going, because its right next to brown coal that is >>>>>>>>>> useless >>>>>>>>>> for anything else, and if fools like Trevor don't like that, they >>>>>>>>>> should go and fuck themselves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Brown coal is the most polluting energy source presently in use >>>>>>>>> anywhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Who cares ? What matters is that the brown coal is useless for >>>>>>>> anything but power generation and so should be used for that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hazelwood must be shut down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Even sillier than you usually manage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, there is nothing the government can do about it, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wrong, as always. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> since it was sold and shut down by a private company. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But if the govt chose to, it is free to buy it back from them >>>>>>>> or to hand them the money to allow it to operate again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Australia has the capacity to generate huge amounts of clean >>>>>>>>> energy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stupid way to generate electricity for all sorts of reasons. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> THAT is what the government needs to be investing in. Not coal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are just plain wrong, as always. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Much better to put the money in base load solar >>>>>> >>>>>> Bullshit. Its only there for less than half the day at most >>>>>> and isnt even the time of day its needed most. >>>> >>>>> All that sun light falling on the desert is, >>>>> as you put it, "only good for one thing". >>>> >>>> That’s just plain wrong. Its good for a lot more than just electricity >>>> generation. >> >>> a: such as what, hot sand is not useful for much. >> >> We don’t actually have any 'hot sand' deserts here. >> >> And the 'sun falling on' can obviously be used >> for more than just electricity generation. >> >>> b: same for that coal - eg preventing a hole in the ground >> >> Even sillier than you usually manage. >> >>>>> base-load solar includes storage so that it >>>>> can put power on the grid durng the night. >> >>>> Pity about the stupid cost of doing it like that. >> >>> same for that coal, but moreso. >> >> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage. >> >> That steaming turd of a solars system that fuckwit pom >> waved around has a cost of electricity of 15cA/KWH >> >> Hazelwood produced electricity for nothing even remotely like that cost. > Interesting speedrithmetic We'll see... > The 260-MW Copiapó project in Chile, That aint the one you waved around. And 260MW is nothing even remotely what Hazelwood produces.