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  Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-15 21:51 +1000
    Re: Thoughts on router modems "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 04:41 +1000
      Re: Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-16 14:25 +1000
        Re: Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-16 15:08 +1000
          Re: Thoughts on router modems Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 15:11 +1000
          Re: Thoughts on router modems Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 15:19 +1000
          Re: Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-16 19:21 +1000
            Re: Thoughts on router modems Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2016-05-17 15:21 +0800
        Re: Thoughts on router modems Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2016-05-17 13:35 +0800
        Re: Thoughts on router modems "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 06:01 +1000
    Re: Thoughts on router modems Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2016-05-17 13:31 +0800
      Re: Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-17 23:01 +1000
        Re: Thoughts on router modems Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 11:09 +1000
          Re: Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-18 12:03 +1000
            Re: Thoughts on router modems Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 12:14 +1000
              Re: Thoughts on router modems news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-05-18 02:33 +0000
        Re: Thoughts on router modems keithr <user@account.invalid> - 2016-05-18 19:45 +1000
          Re: Thoughts on router modems "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-05-18 20:04 +1000
            Re: Thoughts on router modems keithr <user@account.invalid> - 2016-05-18 22:01 +1000
              Re: Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-18 23:58 +1000
                Re: Thoughts on router modems "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 05:35 +1000
            Re: Thoughts on router modems news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-05-18 13:43 +0000
        Re: Thoughts on router modems Sandgroper <woodbudgie@DROPKNICKERSgmail.com> - 2016-05-23 12:29 +0800
          Re: Thoughts on router modems F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-23 17:25 +1000
            Re: Thoughts on router modems Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 19:53 +1000
      Re: Thoughts on router modems "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 06:20 +1000

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#52688 — Thoughts on router modems

Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth the 
extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?

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#52700

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote 

> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 
> worth the extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?

Not really feasible to say unless you say how you use it and the nature
of your DSL service, distance from the exchange or CMUX etc. 

Most of what you get with the more expensive modem routers
is better performing wifi, but unless you say what you are using
wifi on, it isnt possible to say whether they can even get a better
result unless it's known if those devices can actually use the 
higher performing wifi modes. Plenty can't in which case the
higher performing modem router is a complete waste of money. 

And the other consideration is how soon you will have the NBN,
not a lot of point spending more than you have to on a DSL
modem router now only to be changing to the NBN unless it
can do that too and do that better than the cheaper NBN
modem routers can. Plenty can, particularly better than the
cheap and nasty modem routers that come free with the
NBN service from some of the cheapest NBN ISPs like TPG.  

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#52712

Rod Speed wrote:
> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Out of for instance

  TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth
>> the extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>
> Not really feasible to say unless you say how you use it and the nature
> of your DSL service, distance from the exchange or CMUX etc.
> Most of what you get with the more expensive modem routers
> is better performing wifi, but unless you say what you are using
> wifi on, it isnt possible to say whether they can even get a better
> result unless it's known if those devices can actually use the higher
> performing wifi modes. Plenty can't in which case the
> higher performing modem router is a complete waste of money.
> And the other consideration is how soon you will have the NBN,
> not a lot of point spending more than you have to on a DSL
> modem router now only to be changing to the NBN unless it
> can do that too and do that better than the cheaper NBN
> modem routers can. Plenty can, particularly better than the
> cheap and nasty modem routers that come free with the
> NBN service from some of the cheapest NBN ISPs like TPG.

I forgot to mention that this is for the future,including maybe 
FTTN.(looks like FTTN is coming first and maybe later cellular wifi I am 
up in the air at the moment.)
At the moment I have a TD-8960 on slow 
ADhttp://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328338079SL2+ which is annoying 
me, I watch tv replays on a laptop which continually break down 
sometimes reboot of modem fixes it (also bad reception but that is 
another matter)
Also having troubles with NGs which could be astraweb or modem dropping 
out or telstra.
Although I might not have the latest stuff to use modems capabilities I 
may get them in the future (am trying to look ahead)
Two more possibilities?
  ASUS RT-N56U Dual-Band Wireless-N Router Gigabit N600 4-Port

rt-n66u A bit expensive

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#52713

F Murtz wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Out of for instance
>
>   TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth
>>> the extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>
>> Not really feasible to say unless you say how you use it and the nature
>> of your DSL service, distance from the exchange or CMUX etc.
>> Most of what you get with the more expensive modem routers
>> is better performing wifi, but unless you say what you are using
>> wifi on, it isnt possible to say whether they can even get a better
>> result unless it's known if those devices can actually use the higher
>> performing wifi modes. Plenty can't in which case the
>> higher performing modem router is a complete waste of money.
>> And the other consideration is how soon you will have the NBN,
>> not a lot of point spending more than you have to on a DSL
>> modem router now only to be changing to the NBN unless it
>> can do that too and do that better than the cheaper NBN
>> modem routers can. Plenty can, particularly better than the
>> cheap and nasty modem routers that come free with the
>> NBN service from some of the cheapest NBN ISPs like TPG.
>
> I forgot to mention that this is for the future,including maybe
> FTTN.(looks like FTTN is coming first and maybe later cellular wifi I am
> up in the air at the moment.)
> At the moment I have a TD-8960 on slow  ADSL2+ http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719
>  which is annoying  me, I watch tv replays on a laptop which continually break down
> sometimes reboot of modem fixes it (also bad reception but that is
> another matter)
> Also having troubles with NGs which could be astraweb or modem dropping
> out or telstra.
> Although I might not have the latest stuff to use modems capabilities I
> may get them in the future (am trying to look ahead)
> Two more possibilities?
>   ASUS RT-N56U Dual-Band Wireless-N Router Gigabit N600 4-Port
>
> rt-n66u A bit expensive
>
>
That should have been slow ADSL2+ 
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719

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#52714

On Mon, 16 May 2016 15:08:10 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>F Murtz wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Out of for instance
>>
>>   TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth
>>>> the extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>>
>>> Not really feasible to say unless you say how you use it and the nature
>>> of your DSL service, distance from the exchange or CMUX etc.
>>> Most of what you get with the more expensive modem routers
>>> is better performing wifi, but unless you say what you are using
>>> wifi on, it isnt possible to say whether they can even get a better
>>> result unless it's known if those devices can actually use the higher
>>> performing wifi modes. Plenty can't in which case the
>>> higher performing modem router is a complete waste of money.
>>> And the other consideration is how soon you will have the NBN,
>>> not a lot of point spending more than you have to on a DSL
>>> modem router now only to be changing to the NBN unless it
>>> can do that too and do that better than the cheaper NBN
>>> modem routers can. Plenty can, particularly better than the
>>> cheap and nasty modem routers that come free with the
>>> NBN service from some of the cheapest NBN ISPs like TPG.
>>
>> I forgot to mention that this is for the future,including maybe
>> FTTN.(looks like FTTN is coming first and maybe later cellular wifi I am
>> up in the air at the moment.)
>> At the moment I have a TD-8960 on slow  ADSL2+ http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719
>>  which is annoying  me, I watch tv replays on a laptop which continually break down
>> sometimes reboot of modem fixes it (also bad reception but that is
>> another matter)
>> Also having troubles with NGs which could be astraweb or modem dropping
>> out or telstra.
>> Although I might not have the latest stuff to use modems capabilities I
>> may get them in the future (am trying to look ahead)
>> Two more possibilities?
>>   ASUS RT-N56U Dual-Band Wireless-N Router Gigabit N600 4-Port
>>
>> rt-n66u A bit expensive
>>
>>
>That should have been slow ADSL2+ 
>http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719

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#52715

On Mon, 16 May 2016 15:08:10 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>> I forgot to mention that this is for the future,including maybe
>> FTTN.(looks like FTTN is coming first and maybe later cellular wifi I am
>> up in the air at the moment.)
>> At the moment I have a TD-8960 on slow  ADSL2+ http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719
>>  which is annoying  me, I watch tv replays on a laptop which continually break down
>> sometimes reboot of modem fixes it (also bad reception but that is
>> another matter)
>> Also having troubles with NGs which could be astraweb or modem dropping
>> out or telstra.
>> Although I might not have the latest stuff to use modems capabilities I
>> may get them in the future (am trying to look ahead)
>> Two more possibilities?
>>   ASUS RT-N56U Dual-Band Wireless-N Router Gigabit N600 4-Port
>>
>> rt-n66u A bit expensive
>>
>>
>That should have been slow ADSL2+ 
>http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719

Telstra Just put a new modem in prep for FTTN.
A "Technicolor TG799vac"
-- 
Petzl

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#52716

F Murtz wrote:
> F Murtz wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> Out of for instance
>>
>>   TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth
>>>> the extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>>
>>> Not really feasible to say unless you say how you use it and the nature
>>> of your DSL service, distance from the exchange or CMUX etc.
>>> Most of what you get with the more expensive modem routers
>>> is better performing wifi, but unless you say what you are using
>>> wifi on, it isnt possible to say whether they can even get a better
>>> result unless it's known if those devices can actually use the higher
>>> performing wifi modes. Plenty can't in which case the
>>> higher performing modem router is a complete waste of money.
>>> And the other consideration is how soon you will have the NBN,
>>> not a lot of point spending more than you have to on a DSL
>>> modem router now only to be changing to the NBN unless it
>>> can do that too and do that better than the cheaper NBN
>>> modem routers can. Plenty can, particularly better than the
>>> cheap and nasty modem routers that come free with the
>>> NBN service from some of the cheapest NBN ISPs like TPG.
>>
>> I forgot to mention that this is for the future,including maybe
>> FTTN.(looks like FTTN is coming first and maybe later cellular wifi I am
>> up in the air at the moment.)
>> At the moment I have a TD-8960 on slow  ADSL2+
>> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719
>>  which is annoying  me, I watch tv replays on a laptop which
>> continually break down
>> sometimes reboot of modem fixes it (also bad reception but that is
>> another matter)
>> Also having troubles with NGs which could be astraweb or modem dropping
>> out or telstra.
>> Although I might not have the latest stuff to use modems capabilities I
>> may get them in the future (am trying to look ahead)
>> Two more possibilities?
>>   ASUS RT-N56U Dual-Band Wireless-N Router Gigabit N600 4-Port
>>
>> rt-n66u A bit expensive
>>
>>
> That should have been slow ADSL2+
> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719




Another thing happening with monotonous regularity is
Box with "failed to connect to news server astraweb"
or "address not found try again"
click again on either of these and it works,sometimes.
Then I try to send and get a message failed to send with a pile of 
explanatory gobbledygook and I have to try again, sometimes getting the 
same answer, it sends eventually.

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#52727

On 16-May-16 5:21 PM, F Murtz wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Another thing happening with monotonous regularity is
> Box with "failed to connect to news server astraweb"
> or "address not found try again"
> click again on either of these and it works,sometimes.
> Then I try to send and get a message failed to send with a pile of
> explanatory gobbledygook and I have to try again, sometimes getting the
> same answer, it sends eventually.
>

Have you tried unsubscribing and then re-subscribing to your Ngs ?

Sometimes if the news server stops working for a short time , the Ng 
messages pile up and  you get a difference between the message IDs in 
your news reader and the message IDs on the news server and that causes 
problems.

Basically you may have message ID mis-match between your news reader and 
the news server and you will need to re-download the Ngs again.


-- 

Sandgroper
--------------------------------------------
Save planet Earth !
It's the only place that has Pizza and Beer

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#52726

On 16-May-16 12:25 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
> I forgot to mention that this is for the future,including maybe
> FTTN.(looks like FTTN is coming first and maybe later cellular wifi I am
> up in the air at the moment.)

How long before you get NBN ? is it soonish or years away.

If you are going to get FTTN , then you will need to get a VDSL 
compliant modem and none of the modems you have posted are VDSL compliant.

Have a read of this page that tells you what modems you can use with FTTN.

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/fttn_registered_modem_router


-- 

Sandgroper
--------------------------------------------
Save planet Earth !
It's the only place that has Pizza and Beer

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#52764

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> Out of for instance TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth
>>> the extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?

>> Not really feasible to say unless you say how you use it and the nature
>> of your DSL service, distance from the exchange or CMUX etc.
>> Most of what you get with the more expensive modem routers
>> is better performing wifi, but unless you say what you are using
>> wifi on, it isnt possible to say whether they can even get a better
>> result unless it's known if those devices can actually use the higher
>> performing wifi modes. Plenty can't in which case the
>> higher performing modem router is a complete waste of money.
>> And the other consideration is how soon you will have the NBN,
>> not a lot of point spending more than you have to on a DSL
>> modem router now only to be changing to the NBN unless it
>> can do that too and do that better than the cheaper NBN
>> modem routers can. Plenty can, particularly better than the
>> cheap and nasty modem routers that come free with the
>> NBN service from some of the cheapest NBN ISPs like TPG.

> I forgot to mention that this is for the future,including maybe 
> FTTN.(looks like FTTN is coming first and maybe later cellular wifi I am 
> up in the air at the moment.)

> At the moment I have a TD-8960 on slow AD 
> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328338079SL2+ which is annoying me, I 
> watch tv replays on a laptop which continually break down sometimes reboot 
> of modem fixes it (also bad reception but that is  another matter)

What do you mean by that, the wifi dropping out ?

> Also having troubles with NGs which could be astraweb or modem dropping 
> out or telstra.

I have had a bit of that myself, fixed by Telstra doing something
back in the exchange. Super slow almost completely unusable
internet which couldn’t even load speedtest.net at all, let alone
actually run the speed test. The line speed as reported by the
modem was fine. For a while browsing was usable with some
site and completely unusable with others. Newsgroups didn’t
work at all, which is why I was missing for over a week.

> Although I might not have the latest stuff to use modems capabilities I 
> may get them in the future (am trying to look ahead)

IMO with FTTN or fixed wireless coming, it makes more sense
to not do anything until you know which you will end up with.
A decent ADSL2+ modem router like the D7 will be completely
wasted if you end up on fixed wireless and may not be the best
value for money with FTTN either.

> Two more possibilities?
>  ASUS RT-N56U Dual-Band Wireless-N Router Gigabit N600 4-Port

> rt-n66u A bit expensive

See above. 

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#52725

On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth the
> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?

The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750 wifi , 
a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which 
is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.

The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line 
with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy firmware 
and is not known to be a good modem.

The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a NAT 
size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is 
good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of 
the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as 
heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices 
connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.

You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of the 
hardware specs  and the AC wifi.

If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the 
best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram , 
but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the 
only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.

-- 

Sandgroper
--------------------------------------------
Save planet Earth !
It's the only place that has Pizza and Beer

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#52730

Sandgroper wrote:
> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth the
>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>
> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750 wifi ,
> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>
> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line
> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy firmware
> and is not known to be a good modem.
>
> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a NAT
> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of
> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>
> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of the
> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>
> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram ,
> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the
> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>
I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in 
area whatever that means.
Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but 
I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?

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#52734

On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:01:02 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Sandgroper wrote:
>> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth the
>>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>
>> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750 wifi ,
>> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
>> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>>
>> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line
>> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy firmware
>> and is not known to be a good modem.
>>
>> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a NAT
>> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
>> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of
>> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
>> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
>> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>>
>> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of the
>> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>>
>> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
>> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram ,
>> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the
>> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>>
>I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in 
>area whatever that means.
>Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but 
>I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
>Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?

See if NBN can give you a "when"?
https://www1.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/contact-us-form.html
-- 
Petzl

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#52735

Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:01:02 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth the
>>>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>>
>>> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750 wifi ,
>>> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
>>> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>>>
>>> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line
>>> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy firmware
>>> and is not known to be a good modem.
>>>
>>> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a NAT
>>> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
>>> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of
>>> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
>>> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
>>> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>>>
>>> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of the
>>> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>>>
>>> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
>>> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram ,
>>> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the
>>> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>>>
>> I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in
>> area whatever that means.
>> Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but
>> I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
>> Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?
>
> See if NBN can give you a "when"?
> https://www1.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/contact-us-form.html
>
Just says Commenced, leave info,will tell you when

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#52737

On Wed, 18 May 2016 12:03:20 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:01:02 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>>> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth the
>>>>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>>>
>>>> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750 wifi ,
>>>> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
>>>> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>>>>
>>>> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line
>>>> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy firmware
>>>> and is not known to be a good modem.
>>>>
>>>> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a NAT
>>>> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
>>>> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of
>>>> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
>>>> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
>>>> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>>>>
>>>> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of the
>>>> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
>>>> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram ,
>>>> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the
>>>> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>>>>
>>> I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in
>>> area whatever that means.
>>> Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but
>>> I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
>>> Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?
>>
>> See if NBN can give you a "when"?
>> https://www1.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/contact-us-form.html
>>
>Just says Commenced, leave info,will tell you when

you are loking at 2 weeks IMO
You should see Telstra/NBN on the side of road in your suburb
The WiFi modem that Telastra gave me has two modems inside
The one I have not connected to is "5G" (might be for WiFi NBN)?

-- 
Petzl

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#52739

On Wed, 18 May 2016 12:14:44 +1000, Petzl wrote:

>>Just says Commenced, leave info,will tell you when
> 
> you are loking at 2 weeks IMO You should see Telstra/NBN on the side of
> road in your suburb The WiFi modem that Telastra gave me has two modems
> inside The one I have not connected to is "5G" (might be for WiFi NBN)?

Lol, "build commenced" means cable install/upgradem so best you will see 
is crews installing fibre/cable/pits/nodes/cabinets for some time.

Hint, keep an eye on any phone towers nearby. They might get an upgrade, 
but it might not be NBVN but other companies seeking more customers.

Then you get the junk in the snail box saying you can connect now and to 
contact your chosen RSP. If  you are going to stay "wired", you have 18 
months to do that before disconnection.

FWIW, with the election underway, the whole thing could change if 
government changes. In our area "build commended" was stopped and 
restarted two years later.

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#52748

On 17/05/2016 11:01 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> Sandgroper wrote:
>> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth the
>>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>
>> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750 wifi ,
>> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
>> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>>
>> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line
>> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy firmware
>> and is not known to be a good modem.
>>
>> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a NAT
>> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
>> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of
>> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
>> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
>> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>>
>> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of the
>> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>>
>> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
>> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram ,
>> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the
>> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>>
> I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in
> area whatever that means.
> Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but
> I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
> Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?

 From commencement of construction to a connection being available was a 
bit over 6 months here. In an adjacent area it was more like 12 months.

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#52749

"keithr" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message 
news:dq2rvdF7pl6U1@mid.individual.net...
> On 17/05/2016 11:01 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7 worth 
>>>> the
>>>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>>
>>> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750 wifi ,
>>> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
>>> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>>>
>>> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line
>>> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy firmware
>>> and is not known to be a good modem.
>>>
>>> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a NAT
>>> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
>>> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of
>>> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
>>> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
>>> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>>>
>>> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of the
>>> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>>>
>>> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
>>> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram ,
>>> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the
>>> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>>>
>> I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in
>> area whatever that means.
>> Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but
>> I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
>> Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?
>
> From commencement of construction to a connection being available was a 
> bit over 6 months here. In an adjacent area it was more like 12 months.
We were slated for wireless then upgraded (downgraded) to FTTN then the dude 
across
the road complained to the then comms minister (now PM) and we were fast 
tracked back to
wireless. The only problem I see, well besides the extra cost for an 
inferior quota. No ISP
will offer 50Mbps. All they offer is 25 or 12. NBN says 50 is available.

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#52751

On 18/05/2016 8:04 PM, SG1 wrote:
>
> "keithr" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
> news:dq2rvdF7pl6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 17/05/2016 11:01 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>>> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7
>>>>> worth the
>>>>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>>>
>>>> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750
>>>> wifi ,
>>>> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
>>>> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>>>>
>>>> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short line
>>>> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy
>>>> firmware
>>>> and is not known to be a good modem.
>>>>
>>>> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a
>>>> NAT
>>>> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
>>>> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and because of
>>>> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
>>>> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
>>>> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>>>>
>>>> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of
>>>> the
>>>> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
>>>> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of Ram ,
>>>> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then the
>>>> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>>>>
>>> I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in
>>> area whatever that means.
>>> Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but
>>> I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
>>> Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?
>>
>> From commencement of construction to a connection being available was
>> a bit over 6 months here. In an adjacent area it was more like 12 months.
> We were slated for wireless then upgraded (downgraded) to FTTN then the
> dude across
> the road complained to the then comms minister (now PM) and we were fast
> tracked back to
> wireless. The only problem I see, well besides the extra cost for an
> inferior quota. No ISP
> will offer 50Mbps. All they offer is 25 or 12. NBN says 50 is available.
>
I went with 25M which is about 10% faster than my old ADSL2+ connection 
but is $40/mo cheaper. Since we don't stream TV, the performance is 
quite acceptable.

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#52753

keithr wrote:
> On 18/05/2016 8:04 PM, SG1 wrote:
>>
>> "keithr" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:dq2rvdF7pl6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 17/05/2016 11:01 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>> Sandgroper wrote:
>>>>> On 15-May-16 7:51 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>> Out of for instance DSL N55u, TD-W8980,or Archer D7, is the D7
>>>>>> worth the
>>>>>> extra, or what alternative round the same money be better?
>>>>>
>>>>> The D7 is the best bang for your buck modem to get it has AC 1750
>>>>> wifi ,
>>>>> a NAT size of 10,200 and 256 Mb of Ram , uses a Broadcom chipset which
>>>>> is better for long lines  and  costs $169 from MSY.
>>>>>
>>>>> The  DSL N55u uses a Trendchip chipset that is only good for short
>>>>> line
>>>>> with a line attenuation of less than 35 db , it also has crappy
>>>>> firmware
>>>>> and is not known to be a good modem.
>>>>>
>>>>> The TD-W8980 is a reasonable good modem with dual band N600 wifi , a
>>>>> NAT
>>>>> size of 5200 and only 64 Mb of Ram and uses a Lantiq chipset which is
>>>>> good for long lines , however , the wifi is a bit patchy and
>>>>> because of
>>>>> the small NAT and amount of Ram , it is not good for any usage such as
>>>>> heavy torrenting or video streaming , but is it OK for up to 4 devices
>>>>> connected to it and for just for general browsing , emails ..... etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> You would be a lot better off getting the D7 for it's performance of
>>>>> the
>>>>> hardware specs  and the AC wifi.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a all wired network , then the Billion 7800NXL is the
>>>>> best/cheapest one to get as it has a very large NAT and 256 Mb of
>>>>> Ram ,
>>>>> but since the Billion distributor went belly up 6 months ago , then
>>>>> the
>>>>> only place to get a Billion modem is with PLE Computers.
>>>>>
>>>> I put my address in NBN page and it said construction has started in
>>>> area whatever that means.
>>>> Also I got a letter about a cell tower near here for wifi broadband but
>>>> I think that is coming later than  FTTN.
>>>> Would the d7 be suitable for both cellular wifi and FTTN?
>>>
>>> From commencement of construction to a connection being available was
>>> a bit over 6 months here. In an adjacent area it was more like 12
>>> months.
>> We were slated for wireless then upgraded (downgraded) to FTTN then the
>> dude across
>> the road complained to the then comms minister (now PM) and we were fast
>> tracked back to
>> wireless. The only problem I see, well besides the extra cost for an
>> inferior quota. No ISP
>> will offer 50Mbps. All they offer is 25 or 12. NBN says 50 is available.
>>
> I went with 25M which is about 10% faster than my old ADSL2+ connection
> but is $40/mo cheaper. Since we don't stream TV, the performance is
> quite acceptable.

Blimey I watch tv replays on

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5328390719

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