Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: aus.computers Subject: Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2026 15:42:15 +1000 Lines: 71 Message-ID: References: <69d193d7@news.ausics.net> <69d2e0bd@news.ausics.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net GK+xuSQF/KnwjQ9DMp4JVAnl2BQE73T8IjW2SPDVQgHyRrGQE= Cancel-Lock: sha1:s8Hd0677f+VwJ8+6RG1dwJ+ab4U= sha256:7m8jqZFNVr8RiMgyMOV5UMmQ5UTafMjvYwOScSteV6E= User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) Xref: csiph.com aus.computers:73858 keithr0 wrote > Axel wrote >> Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>> Axel wrote: >>>> Rod Speed wrote: >>>>> keithr0 wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote >>>>>>>> keithr0 wrote >>>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/research-finds-ai-users-scarily- >>>>>>>>> willing-to-surrender-their-cognition-to-llms/ >>>>>>>> Not surprising at all. It's much the same as all the stories about >>>>>>>> people getting stuck somewhere because they blindly followed their >>>>>>>> satnav. I'm frequently bewildered by how willing people are to >>>>>>>> offload often important decisions to some perceived authority with >>>>>>>> known failings or ulterior motives, but of course politics and >>>>>>>> religion are based on exactly that common willingness. Such AIs >>>>>>>> have all the potential to join those as a new major social power. >>>>>>> Just like you do with google >>>>>> Google simply points you to places where information exists. >>>>> But the problem is working out what is ignorant shit and what isnt >>>> and AI does that to a large extent >>> Yet you keep posting where it just waffles BS instead. Petzl's >>> didn't even figure out where the data in the article he was asking >>> it to verify had come from (and somehow he still seemed to think it >>> was useful). What you're doing is exactly what the article is >>> talking about - deferring to a false authority rather than deciding >>> for yourself. >> if I can get an answer in seconds to question I want or need answered, >> I consider that far preferable to endless googling to try to find the >> answer myself. If I have any doubt about the veracity of the AI answer, >> I can always check for myself. >>> In fact the AI's responses are no more authoritative >>> than the authors of random webpages, >> AI answers are more authoritative than those from authors of random >> webpages since they're based on the research the AI does to answer the >> query. answers from 'random webpages' rely on the knowledge, and/or >> depth of research, of the author and their honesty, and lack of agenda >> or bias. > Where do you think that "AI" gets it's answers from? Clue - random > webpages Nothing random about what web pages it uses >>> but it tries to tell you what >>> you want to hear, >> no it doesn't. it will tell you if what you're saying is wrong, or if >> something is true or not. I find it a very useful and time saving tool >> to answer simple questions. many questions just need confirmation or >> denial, a yes or no answer, or simply stating some fact. however, no >> doubt the accuracy of answers would probably depend on the complexity >> of the question. >>> which appears to be all you really care about >> no I want a truthful answer >>> (and definitely all that Rod Speed cares about).