Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: keithr0 Newsgroups: aus.computers Subject: Re: "Cognitive surrender" leads AI users to abandon logical thinking, research finds Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2026 13:30:16 +1000 Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: <69d193d7@news.ausics.net> <69d2dcef@news.ausics.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net J2L0KbnEKfD/Ud873/o6PwOtGLDXa9eOyeIBOX6Cdr0PpV/7kc Cancel-Lock: sha1:pFGnO3fx5ETWOXzQa0GhwmZweLg= sha256:pQNi32aMSD1iiU6Vae4gNJvwX819dRXmmsLn4ekacA0= User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com aus.computers:73853 On 6/04/2026 10:26 am, Rod Speed wrote: > keithr0 wrote >> Rod Speed wrote >>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote >>>> Axel wrote >>>>> keithr0 wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote >>>>>>>> keithr0 wrote > >>>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/04/research-finds-ai-users- >>>>>>>>> scarily- >>>>>>>>> willing-to-surrender-their-cognition-to-llms/ > >>>>>>>> Not surprising at all. It's much the same as all the stories about >>>>>>>> people getting stuck somewhere because they blindly followed their >>>>>>>> satnav. I'm frequently bewildered by how willing people are to >>>>>>>> offload often important decisions to some perceived authority with >>>>>>>> known failings or ulterior motives, but of course politics and >>>>>>>> religion are based on exactly that common willingness. Such AIs >>>>>>>> have all the potential to join those as a new major social power. > >>>>>>> Just like you do with google > >>>>>> Google simply points you to places where information exists. Usually >>>>>> there are several, you can read and assess the source material, >>>>>> instead of just getting a summary usually without attribution > >>>>> Google AI gives the sources > >>>> I already showed you where it didn't give me any sources > >>>  Depends on how you invoke it, it does with Gemini > >>>> and told   me a pack of (changing) lies > >>>  You did nothing of the sort > >>>> wrapped up in convincing waffle. > >>>  You did nothing of the sort > >>>> In fact comparing with web search results it was pretty obvious some >>>> of the info had come from Wikipedia pages that no human would have >>>> considered relevent, and not showing sources served to hide that. >>>  It does show sources when you invoke it properly > >>>> You didn't respond to me then, and now I see you just ignored me >>>> because the information didn't come from one of your Artificial >>>> Idiots. > >>>  More of your mindless bullshit > >>>> You are presenting yourself as prime example of someone >>>> "willing to surrender their cognition to LLMs". > >>>  More of your mindless bullshit > >>>  And you do precisely that with google searches > >> Completely different, > > But still "willing to surrender their cognition to LLMs" > >> Google search, just gives pointersto where the   information may be. > > That's bullshit too when you have already decided > that wikipedia is a good efficient source of data on > lots of thing except for data on people who aren't > considered important enough to have their own page You may think that, I don't.