Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: aus.computers,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: New phone scam (at least to me) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:08:27 +1000 Lines: 85 Message-ID: References: <9NOdnZ_Ce44s-lXEnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@westnet.com.au> <59cac6f2$0$57256$b1db1813$7c6b8ee7@news.astraweb.com> <59cba6c5$0$57150$b1db1813$7c6b8ee7@news.astraweb.com> <3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au> <59cdbc60$0$36937$b1db1813$3944f902@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net vqXkhWUfhYJYUiUSYNiibA7kusu3WlF6rBh75mBbQczefVuhA= Cancel-Lock: sha1:xQhViC8FW+2RIZjCDrneUG16n4w= In-Reply-To: <59cdbc60$0$36937$b1db1813$3944f902@news.astraweb.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com aus.computers:61303 aus.politics:617273 aus.legal:70674 "FMurtz" wrote in message news:59cdbc60$0$36937$b1db1813$3944f902@news.astraweb.com... > de chucka wrote: >> On 29/09/2017 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote: >>> >>> >>> "de chucka" wrote in message >>> news:3uidnWWd9cITy1DEnZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >>>> On 28/09/2017 6:51 PM, Petzl wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 18:20:47 +1000, Fran >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/09/2017 11:25 PM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>> de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 3:24 PM, Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 27/09/2017 7:30 AM, FMurtz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:19 PM, de chucka wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/09/2017 12:08 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And dishwashers don’t use hot water anyway, they heat cold >>>>>>>>>>>>> water. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So why is mine connected to the hot water? :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All of mine have only ever used hot water. We would have never >>>>>>>>>>> bought a >>>>>>>>>>> machine that heated water - either a DW or a washing machine. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have modern hot water it probably heats the water a bit >>>>>>>>>> as well >>>>>>>>>> as some supplies are limited to 50% which is not quite enough. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not in this household. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> water to bathrooms has now not to exceed 50%c but you can have >>>>>>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>> to kitchens if piped that way >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You just need to know how to turn up the temp on your water >>>>>>>>> heater. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> exacly >>>>>>> If you do not have instantaneous. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are regulations in Oz about the temperature of hot water in a >>>>>> domestic bathroom setting - we can't be trusted nto to burn ourselves >>>>>> apparently. In NSW, IIRC that temperature is 50 degrees That >>>>>> temperature to me is way too cold. >>>>> >>>>> The airheads who set that think all water is disinfected! >>>>> (chlorinated). >>>>> The original 78 Celsius was there for disinfection reasons, >>>> >>>> When was there a standard 78C in hot water systems and what does it >>>> 'disinfect' against? >>> >>> Legionella. >> >> but so will water at 60C >> >>> >>>> Also over and above chlorination >>> >>> Chlorination does fuck all about legionella, >>> that’s why you still get it in big citys. >> That isn't true https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC239530/ >> >> The problem is that a/c units are an ideal breeding spot for legionella >> sp , temp wise, and as they are common in the environment contamination >> can easily occur >> > But we were talking about 50C which some are set at, especially > instantaneous 50c compliant which are not changeable. And even 50C isnt relevant with a solar hot water system that hasn’t been sized properly so it runs out of hot water and sits around for hours at 30C or lower,