Re: Hel$tra vs TPG

From	keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Hel$tra vs TPG
Date	2016-12-01 21:17 +1000
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On 12/1/2016 4:46 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ea7onoFfh68U1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 11/30/2016 4:23 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:ea4jfjFmm8dU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 11/29/2016 8:39 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ea2djrF6dt1U2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 9:32 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:e9jq5iFlsdtU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 7:40 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:e9jkpdFkhutU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 23 Nov 2016 12:02 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 7:29 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e9idkdFb0btU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e9i62mF99tpU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 12:50 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e9hdipF45hdU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 22 Nov 2016 7:52 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e9fdn8FjavaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 21 Nov 2016 3:35 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 21 Nov 2016 2:21 PM, SG1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e9f2liFh3n9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently disconnected Hel$tra cable and signed up with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TPG. only took 4 days from initial phone call to TPG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for new phone and internet connection to be up and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running including modem delivery and installation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NBN equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now go out and buy a decent modem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would be a waste of money. they one they supply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works just fine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checked speed again 23.35 down, 4.61 up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isnt just the speed that matters, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what else matters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How well it does voip, torrents, wifi etc and how often you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get dropouts and how often you need to reboot it, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voip is the same as it was with helstra,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'll see...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> torrents I don't use,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More fool you...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wifi is as good as ethernet, no dropouts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only person who has ever got that with that particular
>>>>>>>>>>>> modem
>>>>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you're right. I discovered it was getting the wifi signal from
>>>>>>>>>>> the repeater which is connected via ethernet. when I connected
>>>>>>>>>>> direct to the modem wifi it was surprisingly poor, only 2Mbps
>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> why is the modem wifi so crap??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because it costs more to do it properly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> are those twin antennas just for decoration.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope. The problem isnt the antennas,
>>>>>>>>> it’s the wifi hardware that drives them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe it is so bad!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you mentioned voip. the voip box is connected via ethernet to the
>>>>>>>> modem, so the voip performance should be the same as it was with
>>>>>>>> Telstra, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not necessarily. When I changed from the Billion 7202G which
>>>>>>> used to periodically see the Mitron MNFMV1 ata which provides
>>>>>>> a voip service have to be reset, that problem went away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> should I get something like this for better wifi performance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Tenda-N60-Dual-Band-600Mbps-Wireless-Router-Gigabit-WIFI-NBN-QoS-WPS-USB-/282269576596
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I havent got around to researching that yet, havent even gotten
>>>>> around to working out if my current Billion will be fine on the NBN.
>>>>
>>>> Unless it does VDSL or you are getting FTTP it seems unlikely.
>>>
>>> I didn’t mean that, I meant bridging the some steaming
>>> turd that does VDSL2+ and keep using it that way.
>>>
>>>> I bought a Billion 7800N a few years ago on the basis that it would be
>>>> good for the NBN but, since we got FTTN here, it is useless for that.
>>>> Its a pity as it is a better router than the Huawei crap that TPG
>>>> supplied.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've got a 7800NXL and it should be fine with a bridged steaming
>>> turd.
>>
>> I'd bridge the modem but I'd have to get a separate VOIP box and I
>> can't be bothered to at the moment.
>
> I still use the Mitron MNFMV1 for voip.
>
> I did get a voip capable Netcom NB9WMAXX with
> a MyNetFone preconfig for peanuts at a garage sale
> but never got around to configuring the voip to use
> it and its since died.
>
> So I could just keep using the Mitron MNFMV1,
>
> The only real advantage with a fully capable VDSL2+
> voip modem router would be just the one handset
> so I wouldn’t have to fart around when I get a missed
> call on the POTS line and want to call it back on the
> voip service. I was planning to dump the POTS line
> as soon as I could be you cant even do that with
> the NBN FTTN service so it isnt going to happen
> any time soon now that we are going back to a
> fucking monopoly at that legal again.
>
> Hard to justify the substantial cost of a decent
> VDSL2+ voip modem router just for that tho.
>
>> I have got over the DHCP problem by assigning static addresses to
>> everything.
>
> Never had any problem in that area.

Neither had I until I started using this Huawei router. Every time the 
lease ran out, the internet connection dropped for a minute or so while 
the router renewed it. I fixed that by making the leases permanent, but, 
if anything dropped off the system (powered down etc) it would come back 
with a different IP address. That gave a big problem with the printers 
and a couple of WiFi to Ethernet adapters that I use on the DVRs, so 
I've gone round and set all addresses to static

>>> Remains to be seen what I will do that, like I said I havent researched
>>> it at all yet.
>>>
>>> Certainly wont be going with TPG, they are fucked IMO.
>>>
>>> I'll have to stay with dodo for at least 9 months and then we will
>>> see who is offering what at that time. Unlikely to use TPG tho.
>>
>> I had problems with them at first, they hadn't updated the modem
>> firmware to match the latest NBN updates. It has been reasonably
>> stable since then, the price is reasonable ($40/mo less than Telstra
>> was charging for ADSL2)
>
> They actually have their own DSLAMs in my town, but have told
> some that have reported a problem that there is no one available
> to fix the fault and have told them to drop dead on the fault.

I used them on ADSL when I lived in Nambucca, but they were just 
reselling Telstra at a cheaper price.

> And they arent any cheaper than dodo anyway. Fuck that.
>
> They really fucked up Paul Edward's FTTP NBN cutover,
> took weeks to get the phone service migrated. It has
> worked fine since then tho.

Mine migrated immediately although it was crap until the modem firmware 
was updated. Updating the firmware was an exercise in itself, it 
wouldn't download through the modem, I had to download it on my phone 
and update through that

> Short story is that there is no point in TPG for my new
> FTTN NBN service even if I wasn’t still on contract to dodo.
>
> Makes more sense to change to that new cheap one if they
> are still offering that when my dodo contract runs out.

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                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:32 +1100
                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-11-28 21:01 +1100
                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 09:39 +1100
                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-29 15:53 +1000
                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 05:23 +1100
                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-30 20:41 +1000
                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 05:46 +1100
                Re: Hel$tra vs TPG keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-12-01 21:17 +1000
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