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Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale.

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.legal, aus.electronics, aus.computers
Subject Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale.
Date 2016-08-24 07:32 +1000
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"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
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> In aus.electronics Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote
>>>> F Murtz wrote
>>>>> Brian Gaff wrote
>>
>>>>>> Well yes if you claim for the postage as well, which is what I'd have
>>>>>> done.
>>
>>>>> This is similar same seller .
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-3-LCD-Screen-Car-Rearview-Headrest-Mirror-
>>>>> Monitor-For-Car-Reversing-Camera-FB-/182066926897?hash=item2a6408d531:g
>>>>> :gswAAOSwQjNW9XIU
>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/zug758n
>>
>>>>> It has a bit I did not see originally
>>>>> 30 days money back if you pay postage,
>>
>>>> lesson 1: read the refund conditions before you buy
>>
>>> And you'll often have a hard time finding items that don't carry a
>>> similar refund conditions statement. Aliexpress is another option
>>> though, and in theory safer as the seller doesn't get your money
>>> until you say the item has arrived in good condition.
>>
>> Only in theory. I got a neckband headset that way, it never worked.
>> The seller refused to do anything about it, refused to extend the
>> deadline for when the transaction automatically completed, got
>> the money anyway.
>
> Ah, I'll keep that in mind. I did get a refund for a dud USB
> memory stick I purchased for $2 on Aliexpress (I didn't expect
> it to work, I just bought it out of curiosity). That claim went
> through without any hassle.

Yeah, I have had some equally good results. One kept farting around,
I kept telling them that I would give them very bad feedback if they
didn’t give me a full refund. They did eventually give me a full refund
and I spelt out in the feedback that it took a lot of hassling to get the
full refund. They then kept asking me to withdraw the bad feedback
and I kept telling them that it would be dishonest to withdraw it
because I had just said what had actually happened.

They eventually gave up asking me to withdraw the bad feedback.

>>>>> so I was stuffed from the beginning but he should have sent
>>>>> me a new one but wanted me to return old broken one first
>>>>> even though he could see the damage from my photos.
>>
>>>> lesson 2: check the feedback. (98.2%) eg;
>>
>>>> "They sold me a FAULTY item and Im having a really hard time on getting 
>>>> a
>>>> refund"
>>
>>>> "Horrible customer service, rude & demanding. Misleading listing
>>>> regarding light"
>>
>>>> "The item arrived but don't working. Sell don't refund when I was 
>>>> return
>>>> item"
>>
>>>> etc.,
>>
>>>> never buy from a seller with less then 99%
>>
>>> If a seller sells some junk and people buy it anyway, then leave
>>> negative feedback, that doesn't mean that the service is particularly
>>> bad. If you are intent on buying a particular model of device from
>>> _someone_, then complaints relating to the condition of other
>>> items are irrelevent as those devices they relate to may have
>>> been a flawed design regardless of the seller.
>>
>> But the feedback is relevant when they refused to provide a refund
>> when what was bought never did what it was claimed to do.
>
> Yes, it's worth reading. However often it isn't clear whether the
> buyer asked for a refund before posting the feedback. My point is
> not to judge by the total percentage alone.
 

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      Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-08-20 23:51 +0000
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      Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-08-21 11:46 +1000
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          Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 10:51 +1000
            Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-08-22 22:40 +0000
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              Re: Trials and tribulations ebay paypal a salutary tale. "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:32 +1000
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