Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: felix_unger Newsgroups: aus.computers Subject: Re: Windows OS Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:01:13 +1100 Lines: 160 Message-ID: References: <77396f5c-b1ec-43ba-aff9-86eb5254d55d@googlegroups.com> <27d1c02c-06f1-4a32-90c6-3b04748db36e@googlegroups.com> <56791d69$0$1534$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5679d5ad$0$1500$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net j5mNbJI0xe4ZDZJFFfIk+w1x4lA+qbn8StvM0cnBpeSuVvKVLV Cancel-Lock: sha1:4XGMzg6101rY8pnnYyOHfyhM0Mg= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com aus.computers:49545 On 24-December-2015 9:35 PM, Xeno wrote: > On 24/12/2015 4:15 PM, felix_unger wrote: >> On 24-December-2015 4:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote: >> >>> felix_unger wrote >>>> Xeno wrote >>>>> Noddy wrote >>>>>> D Walford wrote >>> >>>>>>> My son has gone over to the dark side, where he works in the UK >>>>>>> everything is Mac and he has become a fan, after my latest computer >>>>>>> problem he's telling me to dump the PC and buy a Mac. >>> >>>>>> Which is a perfectly sensible thing to do, *if* you like paying >>>>>> through >>>>>> the nose for your hardware, >>> >>>>> Good quality hardware costs, just like hardware in the PC world. >>> >>>> I would never buy a Mac. >>> >>> I might, but only to develop iOS apps. >>> >>>> I like to 'fiddle' (I make/repair/upgrade my own PC's) and Apple >>>> actively discourage fiddling. they want users to pay a fortune to one >>>> of their accredited dealers to do what one could easily do themselves >>>> if it were a PC. but my very first personal computer was an Apple >>>> Mac, with 128k of RAM (no, that's not a misprint!) and no hard drive. >>>> but it was technologically streets ahead of IBM machines of the day, >>>> which were still using DOS. Win 3.1 hadn't been released of course, >>>> but when it was it was just a crude copy of the Mac OS, which was >>>> called 'finder' as I recall. However, as windows evolved I decided to >>>> make the change. the cost of Mac hardware and software, the low cost >>>> of PC software/hardware by comparison, and not to mention the >>>> plethora available, and of course the ease of upgrading PC's were the >>>> crucial factors. >>> >>>>>> want around 5% of the world's software made available to you >>> >>>>> Of course 95% of PC software is just duplicate functionality >>>>> software that matches the functionality of the 5% of the Mac >>>>> software. >>> >>>>>> and want to put up with Apple's bullshit. >>> >>>>> What bullshit would that be Noddy? >>> >>>> how about the fact that you just have to guess most of time how to do >>>> things? iPads don't even come with an instruction book for example. >>> >>> They do have a proper electronic manual. It would >>> be completely stupid to have a printed one. >> >> what about someone who's never used one before. how are they supposed to >> know how to get the electronic manual? apple should include a 'quick >> start' guide, like most products have these days, and instructions on > > They do, it's an inbuilt tutorial. afaik I don't have it on my ipad. > >> how to do basic stuff, and that there is an electronic manual available >> and how to get it. their failure to do this is just another indicator of >> their arrogance. >> > The built in tutorial takes you through all the necessary processes. > That would include using 'gestures', more than enough to get you going > I would suspect. >>> >>>> Apple tries to create the impression that it's a superior product for >>>> superior more intelligent users. >>> >>> It is a lot more intuitive than the android system. >>> >>> And quite a bit more restricted too in some areas. >>> >>> You can't for example have the phones auto answer >>> incoming calls because that can be used to snoop >>> on people who set their phone up that way. >> >> we're talking about computers > > Micro$oft would like you to merge computers, laptops, phones and > tablets into a single conceptual package with, thus far, a singular > lack of success. >> >>> >>>> snobby ppl who drive European cars and sip lattes always buy Apple >>>> products. :) >>> >>> Plenty of those wont touch them. >>> >>>>> The Mac OS? Been a free upgrade for years. Even before the Mac OS >>>>> was free, it was very cheap, unlike Windows ripoff upgrades. It's >>>>> interesting to note that the Mac OS/X operating system has had the >>>>> same user interface since 2001, unlike Windows on PCs in the same >>>>> timeframe. >>> >>>> that IS a good feature >>> >>> And you are free to run Win on them too if you want. >>> >>>>> Apple realised that Phones/Tablets have different operational and >>>>> user interface requirements to Desktop/laptop computers hence we >>>>> have 2 Apple operating systems. OS/X for desktops/laptops and iOS >>>>> for phones/tablets. >>> >>>> no one in their right mind would buy a windows phone anyway.. >>> >>> Quite a few do. Mainly so they have the same UI on the phone >>> and the laptop etc. >> >> I guess so >> > Apple worked this out a long time ago at the dawn of the tablet era. > People want their devices to be compatible. They don't necessarily > want them to 'work' the same way. This is something Micr$oft doesn't > seem to find obvious. But then, it never has. >>> > >>> >>> In fact the ipod touch is just an iphone with the phone missing. >>> >>>>> After all, it seems all smart phones have MP3 and video player >>>>> functionality these days. >>> >>> But apple doesn’t compete at the very low cost end >>> of smartphone and never has with stupid phones. >> >> apple products are unjustifiably expensive >> > Might I suggest you look at the innards of a Mac. They leave most of > the pack behind with respect to quality. You need to remember, Apple > aren't selling computers at the low end of the market but Acer, Asus, > Toshiba and many other brands do. These same brands also sell into the > upper market areas alongside Apple computer products. When you look at > the pricepoints of these products, they are very similar in price and > performance but the Mac still pips them on build quality and design. > I've pulled a few iMacs apart in my time, and Mac desktops as well, > and the build quality and design is extremely good. > > -- rgds, Pete ------- Anti-Racist is a Code Word for Anti-White, Diversity, multiculturalism, inclusive society, are all code words for White Genocide! http://thereligionofpeace.com http://pamelageller.com/ http://ausnet.info/islam/lakemba.html the picture that shocked the world!.. http://ausnet.info/islam/hypocrisy.jpg "No need for concern. Only 5-10% of muslims are extremists. In 1940 only 7% of Germans were Nazis. How did that turn out?" "ISIS's actions represent no faith, least of all the Muslim faith" -Barack Obama, idiotic President and Grand Imam of the USA