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Re: If this forum was human..

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers, aus.electronics
Subject Re: If this forum was human..
Date 2015-07-16 04:21 +1000
Message-ID <d0nmvsF52voU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"JW" <none@dev.null> wrote in message 
news:l4jcqad1aujec56skqj7g9sd1hb5r1okie@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:50:52 +1000 "Damian"
> <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote in Message id:
> <mo5ab6$al$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>>
>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:d0lpj8Fki8nU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:55a5ae93$0$46990$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> JW wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 00:16:24 +1000 F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>> in
>>>>> Message id: <55a3c83c$0$25093$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>> So you say,you two are the ones casting aspersions so you are the
>>>>>>>>>> ones
>>>>>>>>>> to prove it, I do not need to waste time searching for the rare 
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>>>>> existing hearsay examples
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      In a normal case, you would be correct to ask that someone
>>>>>>>>> proves the
>>>>>>>>> claim they make. But this case isn't a normal case. It's a case
>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> someone says "The sky is blue!" and you say "No, it's not!", 
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have your eyes closed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      If you want proof, please feel free to search aus.* on my
>>>>>>>>> exchanges
>>>>>>>>> with Roddles, that should give you some ideas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Or you can make it really simple and just search for his
>>>>>>>>> postings with
>>>>>>>>> "You could never bullshit" or/and "out of a wet paper bag". That
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> give you a few thousand hits! :-(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      The main problem cases are if someone corrects/disputes some 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Roddles' statements/claims/<whatever>. When then happens, most of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> time Roddles goes ballistic and into foot-stamping and insulting
>>>>>>>>> mode.
>>>>>>>>> If you haven't seen that, you haven't been here (aus.*) or had 
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> eyes
>>>>>>>>> closed. Period.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      OTOH, to be fair, Roddles has his spurious good moments, with
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> discussion/contribution. One such episode was just recently in
>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>> group (which I won't mention to protect its audience, and no, I
>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>> involved, just watching). So there you go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And have you noticed that in the main the good discussions are with
>>>>>>>> sensible people?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     There are very, very few good discussions in the first place. 
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> no,
>>>>>>> Roddles has no excuse whatsoever that the quality of the discussion
>>>>>>> mostly or even solely depends on the 'sensibility' of his
>>>>>>> correspondents. Quite the contrary, he has many, many of these 
>>>>>>> fights
>>>>>>> with quite sensible people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Bottom line: Roddles and Roddles alone is responsible for *his*
>>>>>>> actions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     My advice: Let this rest. You have no case, no case at all. If 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> want to help Roddles, then support him - if you think he's right -
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> actual factual arguments in an actual factual discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very difficult with no one able to come up with factual instances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one thread:
>>>>> http://fixunix.com/storage/202596-ide-reset-spinup-3.html
>>>>> http://www.wirelessforums.org/alt-comp-hardware/re-rod-speed-snips-runs-again-re-ide-reset-spinup-17302.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Rod's position was that a 40 pin IDE drive would spin up even if the
>>>>> RESET
>>>>> pin on the IDE interface was asserted.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was wrong. When it was pointed out that he was wrong, the Rod-Bot
>>>>> took
>>>>> over.
>>>>>
>>>>> If an IDE drive's reset pin is asserted, it will NOT spin up.
>>>>>
>>>> At least  you have come up with one.
>>>
>>> Trouble is he is wrong about that one. Not all IDE drives do what he
>>> claimed.
>>
>>Here we go again. Let's start.
>>Shall we?!
>
> Sure. ALL Pata disk drives will *not* spin up if RESET is asserted when
> power is applied.

You're wrong.

> There are two reasons for this...

Easy to claim... 

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