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Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase

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On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 09:25:12 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:

> On 8/12/2023 9:43 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 08-Dec-23 5:18 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> In aus.electronics Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/2023 8:26 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> In aus.cars Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> If you like wall-warts everywhere, then fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh. I can see a few reasons why I wouldn't like a DC pedestal fan,
>>>>> but I honestly never thought that anyone would be bothered by the
>>>>> meer presence of a plugpack on a wall.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose they can be awkward to use with extension lead though,
>>>>> which a fan could often be used with.
>>>>>
>>>> Wall Warts are a PITA. The company buys in a heap of wall warts that  
>>>> are
>>>> already Aus certified for 230V so they don't need to have the fan  
>>>> itself
>>>> certified. Cheaping out is all it is.
>>>
>>> Sure, my fans are all AC ones with chunky knobs to turn, so the
>>> idea of DC seems like extra complication to me wherever the PSU is.
>>>
>>> Besides the certification issue, plugpacks also allow them to use a
>>> cheap low-voltage cable running to the fan.
>>  But the cable has to handle a higher current, and will use more metal,  
>> even if it uses less plastic. It's not clear that there's a saving  
>> there.

> Could be to do with a Govt regulation somewherethat states that   
> appliances must use less power,

No such animal.

> its that way in the automotive world,

Bullshit it is.

> some of the changes that manufacturers make don't seem to makeany sense   
> at all until you look at the regulations they must comply with.

Not true of pedestal fans.

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OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-07 21:58 +1100
  Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-07 22:05 +1100
    Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-07 22:54 +1100
      Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-07 22:58 +1100
      Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-12-08 06:17 +1000
        Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-08 11:03 +1100
  Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-08 04:09 +1100
    Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-08 07:03 +1100
    Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-08 08:11 +1100
      Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-12-08 07:26 +1000
        Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-08 10:59 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-08 11:06 +1100
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2023-12-08 10:56 +1000
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2023-12-08 13:21 +1100
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 04:58 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-08 12:26 +1100
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-08 15:03 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-12-08 16:18 +1000
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-08 21:43 +1100
              Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-12-09 09:25 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 19:15 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 04:55 +1100
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-09 11:48 +1100
              Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-09 13:05 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-09 19:18 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 19:19 +1100
              Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 19:18 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-09 19:19 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 04:45 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-10 12:47 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-10 19:14 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-10 19:30 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-10 21:52 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-10 22:22 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-11 04:54 +1100
        Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-08 11:07 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-08 12:12 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> - 2023-12-08 15:46 +1100
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-08 19:34 +1100
              Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-08 20:20 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase jonz <not-here@over-there.org> - 2023-12-08 16:07 +1100
            Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-08 16:55 +1100
              Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-08 19:32 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-12-08 21:42 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-09 14:02 +1100
              Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase jonz <not-here@over-there.org> - 2023-12-09 10:46 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-09 13:04 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2023-12-09 14:32 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-09 15:34 +1100
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2023-12-09 16:36 +1000
                Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2023-12-09 21:38 +1100
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2023-12-08 16:23 +1000
          Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 04:59 +1100
      Re: OT: Pedestal fan purchase "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2023-12-09 04:52 +1100

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