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Re: simple Linux Mint file transfer question

From Felix <none@not.here>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.mint, aus.computers, alt.os.linux.debian
Subject Re: simple Linux Mint file transfer question
Date 2025-08-19 10:40 +1000
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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers Felix <none@not.here> wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> On Sun, 8/17/2025 10:09 PM, Felix wrote:
>>>> yes, USB sticks are the best option for convenient data storage.
>>> The charge is estimated to stay on the floating gates for ten years.
>>>
>>> What kind of Reed Solomon error corrector is used in a USB stick ?
>>>
>>> SSDs have much better handling of the media than a USB stick does.
> Last time I used a USB memory stick the other week it failed on me.
> It was a 16GB one that I hadn't used for many years.

was it a brand name?

>   The old data
> read off OK and new files seemed to write onto it normally, but
> when I later tried to read off the new files on another PC it
> showed the stick full of files/directories with random characters,
> and only one real directory left with correctly-named files and
> contents. Writing the new data had quietly messed the whole stick
> up, presumably due to some failure in the flash chip.
>
>>> Find this kind of USB flash stick instead. This is an SSD architecture,
>>> rather than a common USB stick design. I doubt you can find the
>>> level of technical detail required to impress, but something
>>> like this might have working Wear Leveling and sparing. The
>>> reviews only give speed benchmarks, and the comments in the articles
>>> betray a lack of info even to the reviewer to use. These can do
>>> 800MB/sec, but the SLC cache eventually runs out and prolonged
>>> writes slow down (it behaves like it has TLC inside, which is
>>> a reasonable assumption). The thing likely gets warm when you do a long write.
>>> Some of these things, would be better packaged in metal housings,
>>> if they're going to get warm in usage.
>>>
>>>      https://www.patriotmemory.com/products/rage-prime-usb-3-2-flash-drive
>> I really don't need them.
> I don't know how you'd reliably tell a "common USB stick design"
> from an "SSD architecture" anyway.

I was wondering that too

>   Going from the marketing guff
> is never any guarantee. I'd go with M-Discs - keep the stuff to go
> wrong in the drive, not the storage medium.
>
>>> To test those, use a USB type A port with a *red* tab. I have only
>>> one of those red tabs on my current computer. You would be using the red tab
>>> only for benching. Stick with blue tab ports for best SI (signal
>>> integrity). I've noticed some items plugged into the red port,
>>> are doing retries.
>> It wouldn't be a good idea to put USB 3 flash drives into 3.2 ports, I
>> would think. The computer would be trying to write to them faster than
>> they're capable of writing, which could lead to data error.
> USB devices can tell the host what version they are when they're
> first detected and it can treat them appropriately thereafter.
>

good to know :)

-- 
Linux Mint 22.1

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