Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: David Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mint,alt.os.linux.ubuntu Subject: Re: Mint 22 - No Sound Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 22:35:00 +0000 Lines: 156 Message-ID: References: <20241207215014.081d311fbf6cb3b356a30aea@gmail.com> <20241208195958.a070fb6c4a343d5fea3d640e@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net YlKcYpNbmv43nxy0u/haPwGSGI19hPBstCFxmaekYfL7jNWAQk Cancel-Lock: sha1:vN8nbuXJY8yEttsnPKMduqLmfJY= sha256:7TugXuKgyKAHxviP69mCbzmInYk8yo0d8HQ7TiF4/X8= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.os.linux.mint:43577 alt.os.linux.ubuntu:211984 On 30/12/2024 16:46, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 12/30/2024 8:36 AM, David wrote: > >> >> Thanks for your input, Paul. >> >> Is THIS what you were after? >> >> System: >>   Kernel: 6.8.0-38-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.0 >>   Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.2.7 tk: GTK v: 3.24.41 wm: Muffin dm: LightDM >>     Distro: Linux Mint 22 Wilma base: Ubuntu 24.04 noble >> Machine: >>   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 13-5368 v: N/A serial: Chassis: >>     type: 9 serial: >>   Mobo: Dell model: 0WVDG2 v: A00 serial: part-nu: 073B UEFI-[Legacy]: Dell >>     v: 1.19.0 date: 12/12/2018 >> Battery: >>   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 18.4 Wh (62.8%) condition: 29.3/42.0 Wh (69.8%) volts: 11.8 min: 11.4 >>     model: Samsung SDI DELL FC92N65 serial: status: discharging >> CPU: >>   Info: dual core model: Intel Core i3-6100U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake rev: 3 cache: >>     L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 3 MiB >>   Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 400/2300 cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 bogomips: 18399 >>   Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx >> Graphics: >>   Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9 >>     ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916 >>   Device-2: Sunplus Innovation Integrated Webcam driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0 >>     speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 1-5:3 chip-ID: 1bcf:2c01 >>   Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting >>     unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1 >>   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 >>   Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: AU Optronics 0x102d res: 1920x1080 dpi: 166 diag: 336mm (13.2") >>   API: EGL v: 1.5 platforms: device: 0 drv: iris device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: iris >>     surfaceless: drv: iris x11: drv: iris inactive: wayland >>   API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.0.9-0ubuntu0.1 glx-v: 1.4 >>     direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) device-ID: 8086:1916 >> Audio: >>   Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel >>     bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70 >>   API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-38-generic status: kernel-api >>   Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active >>     2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin >> Network: >>   Device-1: Intel Wireless 3165 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 >>     bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:3165 >>   IF: wlp1s0 state: up mac: >> Bluetooth: >>   Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0 >>     speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 1-6:4 chip-ID: 8087:0a2a >>   Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: bt-v: 4.2 lmp-v: 8 sub-v: 1000 >> Drives: >>   Local Storage: total: 473.1 GiB used: 1.7 MiB (0.0%) >>   ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000LPCX-75VHAT0 size: 465.76 GiB >>     speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: >>   ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Lexar model: JumpDrive size: 7.34 GiB type: USB rev: 2.0 spd: 480 Mb/s >>     lanes: 1 serial: >> Partition: >>   ID-1: / size: 1.79 GiB used: 277.4 MiB (15.2%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102 >>   ID-2: /var/log size: 4.47 GiB used: 1.7 MiB (0.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb3 >> Swap: >>   Alert: No swap data was found. >> Sensors: >>   System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C pch: 38.5 C mobo: 38.0 C sodimm: SODIMM C >>   Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 0 >> Repos: >>   Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1994 >>   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list >>     1: deb cdrom:[Linux Mint 22 _Wilma_ - Release amd64 20240721]/ noble contrib main >>   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list >>     1: deb http: //packages.linuxmint.com wilma main upstream import backport >>     2: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble main restricted universe multiverse >>     3: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates main restricted universe multiverse >>     4: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports main restricted universe multiverse >>     5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ noble-security main restricted universe multiverse >> Info: >>   Memory: total: 4 GiB note: est. available: 3.57 GiB used: 1.73 GiB (48.5%) >>   Processes: 232 Power: uptime: 1h 52m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 255 target: graphical (5) >>     default: graphical >>   Compilers: gcc: 13.2.0 Client: Unknown python3.12 client inxi: 3.3.34 > > Yes. Your audio looks pretty ordinary (as HDAudio hardware, > many devices look like that). While your graphics subsystem lists > HDMI, it does not appear your hardware is from the era where sound > went over HDMI (the default transport when that is implemented > is LPCM 7.1 channel, as there is no licensing fee for unencoded audio > such as that standard). > > It's possible one of your Apple products has audio over HDMI for example. > It's a more common feature on modern equipment, and the only reason > for mentioning the topic, is it tends to foul up the "output selection" > and do the wrong thing. You want the audio selection dialog to > say "Analog Stereo" or "Analog Line Out" and hot have the word "HDMI" > or "Digital" in it. While some people have elaborate listening rooms, > where signal-on-HDMI is appropriate, it is more common for people > to have cheap analog audio for computer speakers. The audio on this > machine cost $25 (two speakers from the recycler store), and the second > computer has my home-made amp for computer speakers (about two watts > into some book shelf speakers). > > I have Fedora on the cooker right now, and to fit it, I blew away > an LM22 that was on that partition :-/ So I can't easily take a picture > of any of this stuff, until I can find my LM22 which is on some > disk around here. I checked the Fedora audio, and as usual, the > selector isn't "Analog Stereo", it is "Digital SPDIF" as my audio panel > on the machine has a red glowing connector, and that's TOSLink output. > And so the software cleverly doesn't select the correct output, it > again has opted for something I don't have (an AV receiver with TOSLink). > > You have to find that selector, which is going to be close to the volume > level icon in the interface. Somewhere around there, will be a setup dialog > with the controls to select a different "sink" for the output. > > The same goes when you're trying to do a Zoom session, and select an input > for the audio. Some microphones are line level and you plug them into > LineIn. Some are low level and those plug into MicIn. And you have to > check the recording selector, to make sure you have the correct channel > being input to the HDAudio input side. > > You can see the poster here, he got a "Dummy Output" for Christmas, > which is like a lump of coal in your stocking. At least there is a picture > of the dlalog you want there. > > https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=379262 > > This is more normal on a modern computer, the "pollution" of digital > items that aren't likely to be connected to anything that actually > uses the output. And the person in this thread, is having trouble > with the OS "remembering" the setting for the next time. Like my Fedora > install, this one is using the red-LED TOSLink output for SPDIF audio, > instead of the Analog Output (suited to analog computer speakers, which > is all I've got for speakers). > > https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=427125 > > The order of discovery of the items at boot time, can affect > whether the selector can detect them in time to conclude > "the default is available". The person in that thread, is using > a USB audio, and that will be detected at a different time point > than some of the other audios. Thanks for chatting, Paul. Here's the thread which *I* started on that forum:- https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2567954#p2567954 I fear I need more hand-holding as I get older! I'm currently wiping the hard drive again on the Dell laptop and will look again tomorrow. -- David My Apple iMac doesn't pose such problems for me! ;-)