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Re: MX-19.3 now available!

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On 11/27/2020 02:36 PM, Paul Babiak wrote:
> On 11/27/2020 01:14 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>> Paul Babiak wrote:

>>> I had a look around in synaptic for any remnants of systemd, and I
>>> found that systemd-shim was still installed. I removed it - so far no
>>> issues.....

>> I don't think that is very wise.
>>
>> Here's what MX has to say about the shim (in a couple of different
>> places):
>>
>>> For MX-19 the systemd from Debian Stable (Buster) has been patched to
>>> restore the systemd-shim that had been removed and to solve
>>> associated issues.
>>
>>> SvsVinit remains the default init yet MX Linux can use crucial Debian
>>> packages that have systemd dependencies such as CUPS and Network
>>> Manager.

> Thanks for your concern. It's my experimental box - so if it breaks, no
> problem. In this case, systemd itself has been removed from MX19.3, and
> a systemd-free antiX kernel installed.
> Anyway, if something stops working, I'll try putting systemd-shim back.
> Or doing a fresh installation even. It's just for fun right now.

Paul, I'm using antix and I don't use networkmanager for many years and 
remove it, first I check to see if net-tools is installed, if not, I 
install 'net-tools' and then install 'wicd' and it works with no 
problem, plus antix installs 'ceni' for wifi. As far as printing goes, I 
have not needed a printer in many years and it badly needs service that 
I don't want to do because I don't seem to need it. As for reading about 
problems in the mx linux forum it's pretty well known that new users and 
there are many, fail to read instructions and searching for help, they 
don't know where to start. So, they ask for help, and you have to tell 
them how to find what you need to know so you can help them.

So, how you doing?

I did a recent clean install of antix-19.3-core and then installed 
plasma-desktop, workspace, etc. and I did not install any PIM, personal 
information management, kmail, etc. Things I like about mx linux is 
user-management, with that you have to install mx-apt and remove 
antix-apt, that and install chroot-rescue-mx while removing chroot. And 
install gksu, kde-servicemenu-rootactions, mx-pkexec, mx-user, 
sddm-modified-init and I like the mx-sound-theme-borealis so I install 
it too. As far as antix goes, just install the latest kernel, 5-8-16 and 
header. Need help let me know, I do know kde pretty good and can test 
other things that I don't personally use.

I did another install while writing this, it's getting easier for me to 
do the kde5 install while using synaptic I look at meta desktops and 
make sure the required packages that I need get installed for the 
packages I want to use. Do that and you will see why both mx and antix 
do not install debian recommends by default, just to many 'smart' 
packages want to be installed, a automated smart computer is not what I 
want. Easy to please and quick response when I click and long up-times 
is what I want. And systemd-shim was never installed.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

AntiX KDE5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda12
Registered Linux User #380263

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MX-19.3 now available! Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2020-11-15 05:26 -0800
  Re: MX-19.3 now available! Paul Babiak <noway@uwish.com> - 2020-11-23 10:37 -0500
    Re: MX-19.3 now available! Jimmy Johnson <jimmy@none.none> - 2020-11-23 22:09 -0800
      Re: MX-19.3 now available! Paul Babiak <noway@uwish.com> - 2020-11-26 22:46 -0500
        Re: MX-19.3 now available! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2020-11-27 10:14 -0800
          Re: MX-19.3 now available! Paul Babiak <noway@uwish.com> - 2020-11-27 17:36 -0500
            Re: MX-19.3 now available! Jimmy Johnson <jimmy@none.none> - 2020-12-06 22:05 -0800
              Re: MX-19.3 now available! Paul Babiak <noway@uwish.com> - 2020-12-13 16:43 -0500
                Re: MX-19.3 now available! Jimmy Johnson <jimmy@none.none> - 2020-12-16 09:12 -0800

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