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| From | Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-xp, alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.msdos.batch.nt |
| Subject | Re: Thunderbird and MIDs |
| Message-ID | <s3phpkhu37mt4d104m0kqvuutodha5pvlr@4ax.com> (permalink) |
| References | (8 earlier) <10n9i11$3cqbu$8@dont-email.me> <10n9p3i$ecjt$1@dont-email.me> <10na0k5.jo0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <10nac24$lcm6$1@dont-email.me> <10nalia$oq6s$1@dont-email.me> |
| Organization | Newshosting.com - Highest quality at a great price! www.newshosting.com |
| Date | 2026-02-20 17:00 -0600 |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 17:00:46 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: >On 2/20/2026 2:18 PM, R.Wieser wrote: >> Frank, >> >>> I don't know if it still works in Outlook Express (Rudy?). >> >> Yes, it does. Both when clicking the news:// link inside a post, or when >> putting it into my webbrowser (FF 52) (which than handed it off to OE). >> >> >> I also tried to put your posts message-ID >> (10na0k5.jo0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net) after the news:// protocol >> header, but although OE tried, it told me that it could not find the server >> (ID-201911.user.individual.net). >> >> Regards, >> Rudy Wieser > >The most logical conclusion, might be that > > a@b.c <=== M-ID needs the b.c to resolve to a real email server > (email) Perhaps email does not allow fudging the b.c part ? > > d@e.f <=== The M-ID on USENET News, all it needs to be, is "unique" > (News) from every other message. Correct. > The designers consider there is > no requirement for e.f to be real and suited to nslookup(e.f). Correct. > But on the minus side, from a context point of view, > if we allow this, we cannot "guess" which USENET account/server > this might have come from. I'm not sure why you'd want to use a M-ID to guess which server was the origin. It's not intended for that. In some/many cases, the Path header might give you that information, if the server shows it. >Outlook Outlook Express. Outlook has no Usenet capability. >wants to look at exactly one server, for d@e.f Yes, the server that's configured in that instance of OE. >and when nsloopup(e.f) >fails to work properly, it becomes wobbly. No one is doing nslookup on a Usenet M-ID. There'd be no point. >Whereas for a USENET client, For a Usenet client? What were you referring to above? >they have the option of trying any USENET news account/server As long as it's configured within that Usenet client. No other Usenet servers can be queried. >to do a lookup of the d@e.f pseudo-identifier. A stated above, no client is going to attempt to do a lookup of the M-ID domain. There'd be no point. >It only looks like an email >address, when it isn't exactly an email address (as the domain can be >fake or a vanity string). That's why you normally need to tell your client how to treat such a string. >Jeff Relf wrote his own USENET news client, and it definitely has a >"unique" string for messages like no other. The NNTP spec allows this. >You do not have to accept the INN "suggested" M-ID, you can use your >own, and that is what Jeff does. I don't know the current state of affairs, but 20-30 years ago most Usenet clients allowed you to specify the M-ID domain. Forte Agent still does, but I haven't bothered. Hence, the @4ax.com on my messages.
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