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Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself?

From Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws>
Newsgroups alt.fan.tolkien, rec.arts.books.tolkien
Subject Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself?
Date 2026-01-12 02:43 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In rec.arts.books.tolkien Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> On 7 Jan 2026 18:01:15 GMT, Stephan Seitz <stse+usenet@rootsland.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>In rec.arts.books.tolkien Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> Well, have you considered the possibility that Frodo, having lost a
>>> finger, is in shock and not thinking clearly? And reacting to Sam the
>>
>>I doubt it. Frodo was awake hours before Sam woke up, but slept again.
>>Nothing indicates that he was in anyway bewildered. Sam showed more
>>signs than Frodo.
> 
> You snipped this:
> 
>>Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> quotes and asks:
>>>Both of them refer to Frodo speaking to Sam on the slopes of Orodruin
>>>after the collapse of Barad-dur...there would not be confusion over whether
>>>this is a repetition of the exact same speech if there were any clear
>>>distinction.
> 
> It has been a long time since I read the book, but am I really to
> understand that Frodo and Sam took hours-long naps after the Ring went
> into the Cracks of Doom while waiting for the Eagles?
> 
> And I didn't say "bewildered". I said "in shock". Losing a finger by
> having it bitten off by Gollum tends to do that to people.

How large a sample size of similarly affected individuals are you
relying on to posit this conclusion?
 
> Very strange. Perhaps, the next time I have a pause in my eBook
> reading, it would be time to reread (some of) JRRT.

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    Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> - 2026-01-03 19:32 +0000
      Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? "O. Sharp" <ohh@panix.com> - 2026-01-04 21:40 +0000
        Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-01-05 08:11 -0800
          Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> - 2026-01-06 05:07 +0000
            Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-01-06 08:34 -0800
              Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> - 2026-01-07 01:30 +0000
                Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-01-07 08:49 -0800
                Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Stephan Seitz <stse+usenet@rootsland.net> - 2026-01-07 18:01 +0000
                Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-01-08 08:31 -0800
                Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> - 2026-01-12 02:43 +0000
                Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-01-12 08:19 -0800
                Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> - 2026-02-22 00:14 +0000
                Re: Did Frodo Repeat Himself? Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-02-22 08:52 -0800

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