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| Subject | Re: It’s Time for America to Admit That It Has a Marijuana Problem (NYT) [I do not endorse this editorial] |
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-02-10 21:49 -0500 |
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On 2/10/26 9:13 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote: > https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/09/opinion/regulate-legalized- > marijuana.html I have to begin my deconstruction with the mere URL. The NYT is a piece of crap, in many ways. Particularly unfriendly toward transgender issues. > Thirteen years ago, no state allowed marijuana for recreational > purposes. Today, most Americans live in a state that allows them to buy > and smoke a joint. President Trump continued the trend toward > legalization in December by loosening federal restrictions. > > This editorial board has long supported marijuana legalization. In 2014, > we published a six-part series that compared the federal marijuana ban > to alcohol prohibition and argued for repeal. Much of what we wrote then > holds up — but not all of it does. > > At the time, supporters of legalization predicted that it would bring > few downsides. In our editorials, we described marijuana addiction and > dependence as “relatively minor problems.” Many advocates went further > and claimed that marijuana was a harmless drug that might even bring net > health benefits. They also said that legalization might not lead to > greater use. > > It is now clear that many of these predictions were wrong. Legalization > has led to much more use. Surveys suggest that about 18 million people > in the United States have used marijuana almost daily (or about five > times a week) in recent years. That was up from around six million in > 2012 and less than one million in 1992. More Americans now use marijuana > daily than alcohol. > Surging pot use > > Number of U.S. residents consuming marijuana, by frequency of use per month > > Source: Jonathan Caulkins (Carnegie Mellon), based on National Survey on > Drug Use and Health > > By THE NEW YORK TIMES > > This wider use has caused a rise in addiction and other problems. Each > year, nearly 2.8 million people in the United States suffer from > cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, which causes severe vomiting and > stomach pain. More people have also ended up in hospitals with > marijuana-linked paranoia and chronic psychotic disorders. Bystanders > have also been hurt, including by people driving under the influence of > pot. Yeah, well, if they're smoking that much, to get hyperemesis syndrome, FFS, control yourself, jeez. And driving stoned is a joke, this is typical media giving lip service to a minor issue, I'd rather have someone driving too slowly in the right lane on weed, than driving drunk (disclaimer: it does depend on the individual and the occasion in question). > America should not go back to prohibition to fix these problems. The war > on marijuana brought its own costs. Every year, authorities arrested > hundreds of thousands of Americans for marijuana possession. The people > who suffered the legal and financial consequences were > disproportionately Black, Latino and poor. A society that allows adults > to use alcohol and tobacco cannot sensibly arrest people for marijuana > use. We oppose the nascent efforts to re-criminalize the drug, such as a > potential ballot initiative in Massachusetts this year that would ban > recreational sales and home growing. We agree, there. > Yet there is a lot of space between heavy-handed criminal prohibition > and hands-off commercial legalization. Much as the United States > previously went too far in banning pot, it has recently gone too far in > accepting and even promoting its use. Given the growing harms from > marijuana use, American lawmakers should do more to regulate it. The > most promising approach is one popularized by Mark Kleiman, a drug > policy scholar who died in 2019. He described it as “grudging > toleration.” Governments can enact policies that keep the drug legal and > try to curb its biggest downsides. Culture and social norms can play an > important role, too. > > The larger point is that a society should be willing to examine the > real-world impact of any major policy change and consider additional > changes in response to new facts. In the case of marijuana, the recent > evidence offers reason for Americans to become more grudging about > accepting its use. > > Over the past several decades, supporters of marijuana legalization > often called for a strategy of “legalize and regulate.” It is a smart > approach. Unfortunately, the country has pursued the first part of it > while largely ignoring the second. "Regulate" is a douche word, here. The author may not realize it. He or she may think they are making a really based point, but it's a bunch of hooey. You either legalize or you don't. Period. > We want to emphasize that occasional marijuana use is no more a problem > than drinking a glass of wine with dinner or smoking a celebratory > cigar. Many Americans find it enjoyable to smoke a joint or eat an > edible, with friends or alone. Some people with serious illnesses have > found relief with marijuana. Adults should have the freedom to use it. > > Still, any product that brings both pleasures and problems requires a > balancing act, and marijuana falls into this category. Yes, it is safer > than alcohol and tobacco in some ways, but it is not harmless. The > biggest concern is excessive use. At least one in 10 people who use > marijuana develops an addiction, a similar share as with alcohol. Even > some who do not develop an addiction can still use it too much. People > who are frequently stoned can struggle to hold a job or take care of > their families. “As marijuana legalization has accelerated across the > country, doctors are contending with the effects of an explosion in the > use of the drug and its intensity,” a New York Times investigation > concluded in 2024. “The accumulating harm is broader and more severe > than previously reported.” > > Jennifer Macaluso, a hairdresser in Illinois, experienced these harms. > She turned to marijuana to treat severe migraines, and the drug helped > at first. After months of use, though, she started getting sick. Her > nausea and vomiting became so bad that she had to stop working. Only > after months of seeing doctors did one finally confirm marijuana was the > problem. “Why don’t more doctors know about it?” she told The Times. > “Why didn’t anyone ever mention it to me?” > > Part of the answer is the power of Big Weed. For-profit marijuana > companies, made possible by legalization, have a financial incentive to > mislead the public about what they are selling. Marijuana and CBD > companies have made false claims that their products can treat cancer > and Alzheimer’s. Others have sold products, such as “Trips Ahoy” and > “Double Stuf Stoneo,” in packages that mimic snacks for children. The > companies’ executives know they can increase profits by downplaying the > harms of frequent use: More than half of industry sales come from the > roughly 20 percent of customers known as heavy users. > > The legal pot industry grew to more than $30 billion in U.S. sales in > 2024, close to the total annual revenue of Starbucks. As the industry > has grown, it has increased lobbying of state and federal lawmakers, and > it has won some big victories. Marijuana companies, not casual smokers, > are the biggest winners of Mr. Trump’s decision to reclassify the drug > from Schedule I to Schedule III. The change will increase the profits of > these businesses by causing the tax code to treat them more favorably. > This does not qualify as grudging toleration. > > A better approach would acknowledge that many people end up worse off > when they start to use marijuana more frequently. The goal should not be > elimination. It should be to slow the recent rise, and perhaps partly > reverse it, while acknowledging that many people use marijuana safely > and responsibly. Alcohol and tobacco offer a useful framework. Both are > legal with limitations, including relatively high taxes, open-container > laws and regulations on alcohol and nicotine levels. The goal is to > balance personal freedom and public health. > > Marijuana, however, is less regulated in several crucial ways. The > federal government taxes alcohol and tobacco, for example, but not > marijuana. And increases in tobacco taxes have been a major reason that > its use has declined during the 21st century, with profound health > benefits. > > The first step in a strategy to reduce marijuana abuse should be a > federal tax on pot. States should also raise taxes on pot; today, state > taxes can be as low as a few additional cents on a joint. Taxes should > be high enough to deter excessive use, on the scale of dollars per > joint, not cents. (Federal alcohol taxes, which have failed to keep pace > with inflation since the 1990s, should rise, too.) Here we go, tax the shit out of it, they don't seem to comprehend there is still a black market for it, it's a plant, the legal industries can't compete when they're taxed to hell. Duh. > An advantage of taxes is that they fall much more on heavy users than > casual smokers. If a joint cost $10 instead of $5, it would mean a lot > of extra money for someone now smoking multiple joints a day and may > change that person’s behavior. It would not be a big burden for someone > who smokes occasionally. > > A second step should be restrictions on the most harmful forms of > marijuana, which would also be similar to regulations for alcohol and > tobacco. Today’s cannabis is far more potent than the pot that preceded > legalization. In 1995, the marijuana seized by the Drug Enforcement > Administration was around 4 percent THC, the primary psychoactive > compound in pot. Today, you can buy marijuana products with THC levels > of 90 percent or more. As the cliché goes, this is not your parents’ > weed. It is as if some beer brands were still sold as beer but contained > as much alcohol per ounce as whiskey. > > Not surprisingly, greater THC potency has contributed to more addiction > and illness. The appropriate response is both to make illegal any > marijuana product that exceeds a THC level of 60 percent and to impose > higher taxes on potent forms of pot, much as liquor is taxed more > heavily than beer and wine. That is pure rubbish. The near-pure THC products would be such as an electronic vape, which is all I buy, since I'm in a state where it's available. Who would want to mess with flower/bud? > Third, the federal government should take action on medical marijuana. > Decades of studies on the drug have proved disappointing to its > boosters, finding little medical benefit. Yet many dispensaries claim, > without evidence, that marijuana treats a host of medical conditions. > The government should crack down on these outlandish claims. It should > issue a clear warning to dispensaries that falsely promise cures and > then close those that do not comply. Was that even meant to be coherent?! > The federal government needs to be part of these solutions. Leaving > taxes and regulations to the states threatens to create a race to the > bottom in which people can cross state lines to buy their pot. Congress > can set a floor, as it has done, however inadequately, with alcohol and > tobacco, and states can build on it as they choose. > > The unfortunate truth is that the loosening of marijuana policies — > especially the decision to legalize pot without adequately regulating it > — has led to worse outcomes than many Americans expected. It is time to > acknowledge reality and change course. It's time for the NYT to be relegated to the dustbin of history, when it comes to being the forefront of info. Newspapers schmusepapers. -- Joel W. Crump
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It’s Time for America to Admit That It Has a Marijuana Problem (NYT) [I do not endorse this editorial] "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-02-10 21:13 -0500
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Re: It’s Time for America to Admit That It Has a Marijuana Problem (NYT) [I do not endorse this editorial] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-02-12 16:00 -0800
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