Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: alexyu Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey Subject: Re: IMAP mail problem Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 23:58:30 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 122 Message-ID: References: <9c0b27c0-71b0-7665-7314-d87772221be5@postpro.net> <10srdat$3g9po$2@dont-email.me> <10stik9$15trh$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="00b873151361ec6c7d7478c26ce5bd71"; logging-data="410725"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+V73SIbWRO+lfZ0rN1gFUh" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1yda8kgNZMjfDJayLcjMdzqJWd4= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 260429-4, 29 04 2026), Outbound message X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://eternal-september.org In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.software.seamonkey:8550 An update to my last message... I made an experiment, entering "Trash on (server]" in the "Server Settings" field, and saw that it appeared in the 'about:config' preferences as: > mail.server.server1.trash_folder_name user set string INBOX/Trash But, after closing and reopening SM, the field in the "Mail Settings / 'IMAP server' / Server Settings" field was back to "Choose folder", and the 'about:config' preferences were now: > mail.server.server1.trash_folder_name user set string INBOX/Trash That seems to indicate that something in SM isn't accepting the choice of a 'server trash' folder, making the feature not work -- but I have no idea why/where, and how to correct it. -------------- alexyu wrote, on 29 Apr 2026 22:51: > Hi, Dirk Fieldhouse! Thanks for writing, on 29 abr 2026 15:28: > >>>> alexyu wrote: >>>> >>>>> On a SeaMonkey IMAP mail account, for many years this setting worked >>>>> fine, for me: >>>> >>>>> In "Server Settings": >>>>>     When I delete a message: >>>>>       (X) Move it to this folder: >>>>>         'Trash' on [Account] > > >> Make sure that the server's Trash is still subscribed in the IMAP server >> settings. > > I have no idea where I can see which server folders I'm subscribed to, > since I haven't been able to find any place in SM Settings where that's > shown.  The closest I could find is in the IMAP server' account's > "Synchronization & Storage", where the first item is "Message > Synchronizing", but that's for "choosing mail folders and newsgroups for > off line use", which is not the case, here.  This does show several > folder in the IMAP server, but they're clearly not all the ones I can > see on their webmail site. > > There's also the "Advanced Account Settings" button in the Server > Settings, where the first option is to "Show only subscribed folders" > (or not), and ticking it does hide some folders, but NOT the "Trash" > one, which is what I was using, > >> I would be very sceptical of an email provider blaming SM but you could >> always try to reproduce the problem in TB or some other IMAP client. Or >> ask what change they made that caused your SM to behave differently, >> since the problem is new behaviour. > > That's not he situation, here:  I had been using this IMAP server for > many years, and the "Server Setting" quoted at the beginning of this > message was in use, and working.  Many years ago, I had added some > scripts to the server's site, which I barely understood, and have no > records about them; also, some years back I had changed a local mail > service for Gmail, and tried to substitute it for another earlier one, > including in forwarding messages to the IMAP server.  Several months > back, I made a general 'reform' of my computer systems, and had to > change may things in many programs, and one thing I noticed was that the > gmails were no longer being forwarded, so I contacted the server, and > they said that was because some of the existing scripts weren't working > (due to no-longer-existing folder names), so they suggested clearing > those scripts, which should correct the problem -- and it did, for gmail. > > Some time later, I noticed that a previous behavior (any message I > downloaded from the server to Local Folders should be moved/copied also > to the server's "Trash" folder, which had been working for years) no > longer worked, and contacted them. > > Their response was (somewhat resumed): > >> Sieve and mail rules are applied to messages when they first arrive >> at your mailbox on IMAP server. Therefore, it's not possible to use a >> sieve or rule to dictate how messages are treated after they are >> downloaded to a client like SeaMonkey. >> >> Usually this kind of behavior is configured within the email client >> itself. I would recommend checking your account settings in SeaMonkey >> for such feature > > So I did that, and 'found' the setting I copied above (which I could be > sure was the one I had, because I do have some records of these settings. > > Currently this setting does seem to have a problem, as I said in the > first message in this thread: > >> Lately, after some problems/crashes, the account functions work >> normally, but this 'move to' (when you delete a message on the >> SeaMonkey 'client') doesn't -- and, on reopening the 'Mail/Newsgroups >> Settings', the 'move-to' folder name has disappeared (thus, the >> message deleted on the client is NOT moved/copied to the server >> "Trash" folder). >> >> I suspect it may be due to some problem/s in the SM Preferences (in >> 'about:config'), but haven't been able to pinpoint any 'suspects'. > > So, since I enter the "Move message to folder 'Trash' on [Account]", and > next time SM is launched it's gone, with "Choose folder" once more in > the field, and there WAS a period during that 'time of troubles' in my > system where some things may have been 'damaged' (but not 'broken'...), > I guess the problem really is in some damaged SM parameters -- but, > since don't have any knowledge about the cryptic settings in SM > "ImapMail", all the other functions of mail/News work fine, and I prefer > not to try and create alternate profiles/users, I guess I'll just learn > to live with the system as it is... > > Thanks for the attention and suggestions! -- Best, s) alexyu