Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: alexyu Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.seamonkey Subject: Re: IMAP mail problem Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2026 22:51:19 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 103 Message-ID: References: <9c0b27c0-71b0-7665-7314-d87772221be5@postpro.net> <10srdat$3g9po$2@dont-email.me> <10stik9$15trh$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 01:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="00b873151361ec6c7d7478c26ce5bd71"; logging-data="382852"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/vagRtSSq3sPbc/rhbN7SA" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Cancel-Lock: sha1:EqCWvGneA8ZTPawER7zuRll3m7Q= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <10stik9$15trh$1@solani.org> X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 260429-4, 29 04 2026), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.software.seamonkey:8549 Hi, Dirk Fieldhouse! Thanks for writing, on 29 abr 2026 15:28: >>> alexyu wrote: >>> >>>> On a SeaMonkey IMAP mail account, for many years this setting worked >>>> fine, for me: >>> >>>> In "Server Settings": >>>>    When I delete a message: >>>>      (X) Move it to this folder: >>>>        'Trash' on [Account] > Make sure that the server's Trash is still subscribed in the IMAP server > settings. I have no idea where I can see which server folders I'm subscribed to, since I haven't been able to find any place in SM Settings where that's shown. The closest I could find is in the IMAP server' account's "Synchronization & Storage", where the first item is "Message Synchronizing", but that's for "choosing mail folders and newsgroups for off line use", which is not the case, here. This does show several folder in the IMAP server, but they're clearly not all the ones I can see on their webmail site. There's also the "Advanced Account Settings" button in the Server Settings, where the first option is to "Show only subscribed folders" (or not), and ticking it does hide some folders, but NOT the "Trash" one, which is what I was using, > I would be very sceptical of an email provider blaming SM but you could > always try to reproduce the problem in TB or some other IMAP client. Or > ask what change they made that caused your SM to behave differently, > since the problem is new behaviour. That's not he situation, here: I had been using this IMAP server for many years, and the "Server Setting" quoted at the beginning of this message was in use, and working. Many years ago, I had added some scripts to the server's site, which I barely understood, and have no records about them; also, some years back I had changed a local mail service for Gmail, and tried to substitute it for another earlier one, including in forwarding messages to the IMAP server. Several months back, I made a general 'reform' of my computer systems, and had to change may things in many programs, and one thing I noticed was that the gmails were no longer being forwarded, so I contacted the server, and they said that was because some of the existing scripts weren't working (due to no-longer-existing folder names), so they suggested clearing those scripts, which should correct the problem -- and it did, for gmail. Some time later, I noticed that a previous behavior (any message I downloaded from the server to Local Folders should be moved/copied also to the server's "Trash" folder, which had been working for years) no longer worked, and contacted them. Their response was (somewhat resumed): > Sieve and mail rules are applied to messages when they first arrive > at your mailbox on IMAP server. Therefore, it's not possible to use a > sieve or rule to dictate how messages are treated after they are > downloaded to a client like SeaMonkey. > > Usually this kind of behavior is configured within the email client > itself. I would recommend checking your account settings in SeaMonkey > for such feature So I did that, and 'found' the setting I copied above (which I could be sure was the one I had, because I do have some records of these settings. Currently this setting does seem to have a problem, as I said in the first message in this thread: > Lately, after some problems/crashes, the account functions work > normally, but this 'move to' (when you delete a message on the > SeaMonkey 'client') doesn't -- and, on reopening the 'Mail/Newsgroups > Settings', the 'move-to' folder name has disappeared (thus, the > message deleted on the client is NOT moved/copied to the server > "Trash" folder). > > I suspect it may be due to some problem/s in the SM Preferences (in > 'about:config'), but haven't been able to pinpoint any 'suspects'. So, since I enter the "Move message to folder 'Trash' on [Account]", and next time SM is launched it's gone, with "Choose folder" once more in the field, and there WAS a period during that 'time of troubles' in my system where some things may have been 'damaged' (but not 'broken'...), I guess the problem really is in some damaged SM parameters -- but, since don't have any knowledge about the cryptic settings in SM "ImapMail", all the other functions of mail/News work fine, and I prefer not to try and create alternate profiles/users, I guess I'll just learn to live with the system as it is... Thanks for the attention and suggestions! -- Best, s) alexyu