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When are Message Headers retreived??

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In eternal-september.support, there is a discussion going on about when 
Message Filters are applied to a message/newsgroup. The thread is ...

Maximum number of crossposts allowed on eternal-september?

I've altered that Subject: to ....

OT: When is the Message Body retreived from the Server?? was Re: Maximum 
number of crossposts allowed on eternal-september?

Yesterday (4th May), Mickey posted (in part) ....

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Since the Newsgroups header typically is not included in the xover,
isn't this an expensive filter that doesn't work until you retrieve
the body?
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to which I replied ...

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Sorry. WHAT?? I could be wrong but ....Isn't the Header AND the Body of 
a message retrieved from the Server in the one go .... rather that the 
above seeming to suggesting the Header is retrieved and THEN the Body is 
(maybe) retrieved??
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So, when I click on a Newsgroup in the Server Pane of SM's Mail and 
Newsgroups screen and the various Threads are listed in the Threads pane 
(i.e. one thread I see listed here is 'How can I move the "open new tab" 
Button?' posted by Hank back on the 19/04/2026'), but, without clicking 
on that line in the Threads pane, have I actually downloaded anything of 
the message header so that a filter can be applied to any lines in the 
Header information of a particular message??

Or is the Message Header information (and the Message content) ONLY 
retreived from the News Server (E-S in my particular case) when I select 
a particular Message in the Threads pane??
-- 
Daniel70

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When are Message Headers retreived?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-05-05 20:42 +1000
  Re: When are Message Headers retreived?? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2026-05-06 08:52 +1200
    Re: When are Message Headers retreived?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-05-06 20:15 +1000
      Re: When are Message Headers retreived?? Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2026-05-07 17:17 +1200
        Re: When are Message Headers retreived?? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-05-07 20:49 +1000

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