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Re: Keyboard shortcut question

From alexyu <alexyu@postpro.net>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.seamonkey
Subject Re: Keyboard shortcut question
Date 2026-02-27 15:44 -0300
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Message-ID <0702955e-ed34-031d-ef3b-91a36c58a8cb@postpro.net> (permalink)
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Daniel70 wrote, on 27 Feb 2026 05:41:

> Alexyu, what I might have omitted to mention is that, WHEN you Delete a 
> Message from the Inbox it IS NOT actually deleted.
> 
> All the messages in your Inbox are contained in the one File and each 
> 'e-mail' with-in that File begins with a single byte to indicate if the 
> (following) message is NEW (i.e. UNREAD), or has been READ but not 
> deleted or has been DELETED.
> 
> The e-mail is not actually deleted (although it will not be listed in 
> the 'Inbox' at all but will be listed in the 'TRASH' file but marked for 
> deletion) at this stage.
> 
> When you 'Empty Trash' and then 'Compact Folders', the message is really 
> gotten rid of and removed forever! Until this stage, you can reclaim 
> your lost message.

* sigh! *

As I said twice, I was short-sighted, but I'm not ignorant...

What you described above is for 'file deltion' on a PC in general; but, 
for emails in SM, it IS similar, but managed by SM, not the OS.

As I had said in one of the previous messages:

> when any email message is selected in SM Mail, if you press "DEL",
> even by accident, that message is immediately considered 'deleted' --
> and to get it back, I close SM, open the corresponding mail folder in
> a text processor (like Notebook), find the 'deleted' message, change
> its "X-Mozilla-Status & Status2" back, delete the folder's MSF file,
> reopen SM, and let it rebuild the MSF file;

So, yes, it's not physically deleted, but SM has its own mechanism (the 
"X-Mozilla-Status & Status2" in the SM mailfolder file) for a similar 
result -- and I always used THAT (there's no 'byte' to indicate anything 
to the OS yet, as I understand it).

Yes, the result of changing the "X-Mozilla-Status & Status2" IS to 
'indicate that it should be considered deleted', and that's how SM 
treats it from then on, until you compact the folder, whereupon that 
message IS deleted...

What I always neglected is that, from the 'delete' action until 
compaction, that message 'will be listed in the 'TRASH' file', and THAT 
is an easy and quick way to un-delete it; that's my short-sightness...

I had that problem for many years, and still did until now, because I'm 
still on SM 2.49; from this exchange, I now know that SM 2.53 has 
included that 'Undelete' in the menu, so if/when I start using it, I'll 
be covered (which is another small bit of good news).


My error was

-- 
Best,

s) alexyu


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