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| From | AJL <noemail@none.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Tablet Review - My new Windows tablet is not so hot... |
| Date | 2026-05-06 09:16 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 5/6/2026 12:30, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 5/6/2026 1:44 AM, AJL wrote:
>> Another interesting thing in Control Panel. It has a Backup and
>> Restore Windows 7 section. Apparently that's what was on the device
>> when new. But when opened it says it has not been set up. Darn...
> Windows 7 backup is an included utility since... Windows 7. It has
> changed slightly since inception. For example, it originally output
> one partition per VHD file. Now it outputs one partition per VHDX
> file. The difference is, a VHD file has a 2.2TB limitation on size,
> whereas a VHDX handles things larger than 2.2TB. Maybe the limit is
> at least 500TB for the VHDX (while containers have larger nominal
> limits than that, there may be other limits that make more than
> 500TB an issue). The Windows 7 backup (so called), is not a general
> disk backup. You cannot say to it "back up all the partitions on
> this disk", in the same way an Acronis or a Macrium could do that.
> You cannot ask it to back up just the ESP partition, as it has a
> minimum set of partitions it wants to back up.
> Since you complain your thingy is not setup, there is a command line
> version of Windows 7 backup you can play with. The command line one
> is suited to one-off testing.
I was joking. Guess I'm gonna have to start using more smileys. Trouble
is I can't figure out how to make one on this screwed up keyboard...
> The following command is a display of some of the options, and the
> command contains more parameters than is really needed. We know the
> backup folder is going onto partition F: . One of the volumes does
> not have a drive letter, and we're using an alternative identifier to
> grab that partition. The "allCritical" uses the GPT attribute to
> detect "things needed to boot the OS", and it can be used by itself
> (as long as the user knows what gets covered that way). Any qualifier
> which selects an item twice does no harm, as the partition only gets
> backed up once, so overspecifying the source doesn't hurt the process
> at all. The second command captures the essential partitions to make
> the machine boot (it would ignore your D: data partition as a data
> partition is not part of booting). # Admin terminal, for backup
> rights wbadmin start backup -backuptarget:F:
> -include:Z:,N:,D:,\\?\Volume{ef618b33-36a8-4861-a549-b8a65dc9ecb9}\
> -allCritical -quiet wbadmin start backup -backuptarget:F:
> -allCritical -quiet # Your ESP, C:, and Recovery Partition
> perhaps So if you want to see the fur fly, you can experiment with
> the command and not bother setting up a schedule for it. Then you can
> drill down into the F: partition (in the example) and look at the
> folder structure of the backup But if your disk has two copies of
> Windows on it (a W10 C: and a W11 C: ), then it becomes a bit more
> difficult to tell the stupid thing to back up all the partitions.
> That's when you have to do the \\?\Volume{...}\ thing. When you're
> finished, there will be some number of VHDX partitions. Then you can
> check and see if the "Mount" command is available, to examine the
> contents. While 7ZIP can open a VHD file, it cannot open a VHDX. I
> would not throw away any backup scheme I already had, to be using
> "Windows 7 Backup". It's definitely an acquired taste, and some of
> the commercial backup programs are a bit easier to use. All backup
> schemes need to be tested. If I tell you to use Product X, you
> should not believe me that it works, you should back up and restore
> to a different disk and check that all steps worked as expected. I
> think I may have tested Restore on Windows 7 Backup, just the one
> time -- you can tell I'm a fan of Windows 7 Backup :-) But, Microsoft
> made it, and some people out there just love items like this
> ("because it was free"). ******* Here is a test run. D: is my scratch
> for stuff like this. PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> wbadmin start backup
> -backuptarget:D: -allCritical -quiet wbadmin 1.0 - Backup
> command-line tool (C) Copyright Microsoft Corporation. All rights
> reserved. Retrieving volume information... This will back up (EFI
> System
> Partition),W11HOME(C:),(\\?\Volume{c3bc5ab1-c5f0-4dae-838c-751ef868e237}\
>to D: The backup operation to D: is starting. Creating a shadow copy
> of the volumes specified for backup... Creating a shadow copy of the
> volumes specified for backup... Creating a backup of volume (EFI
> System Partition) (100.00 MB), copied (0%). Creating a backup of
> volume (EFI System Partition) (100.00 MB), copied (100%). Compacting
> the virtual hard disk for volume (EFI System Partition) (100.00 MB),
> completed (0%). The backup of volume (EFI System Partition) (100.00
> MB) completed successfully. Creating a backup of volume W11HOME(C:),
> copied (4%). ... Creating a backup of volume W11HOME(C:), copied
> (96%). The backup of volume W11HOME(C:) completed successfully. The
> backup of volume (1.00 GB) completed successfully. Summary of the
> backup operation: ------------------ The backup operation
> successfully completed. The backup of volume (EFI System Partition)
> (100.00 MB) completed successfully. The backup of volume W11HOME(C:)
> completed successfully. The backup of volume (1.00 GB) completed
> successfully. <=== Recovery Partition has no letter or label Log
> of files successfully backed up:
> C:\WINDOWS\Logs\WindowsBackup\Backup-06-05-2026_07-11-01.log
> 0bd6166a-0836-4041-891c-792df2c72abd.vhdx 76,703,334,400 bytes (71
> GiB) C: partition c3bc5ab1-c5f0-4dae-838c-751ef868e237.vhdx
> 838,860,800 bytes (800 MiB) Recovery Partition Esp.vhdx
> 109,051,904 bytes (104 MiB) EFI System Partition When I selected
> "Mount" as the option for the first partition, a dialog warned me of
> this or that. But that's because it wants you to open Disk Management
> and finish the job. You have to assign a drive letter to the virtual
> C: and I set it to K: before viewing it "for authenticity". You can
> detach K: from Disk Management as well (click the left-most drive
> box, for access to a detach-item).
>
> Paul
Thanks but I think I have enough stuff to keep me busy on this toy right
now. And BTW did I mention that I only have 25GB free storage on this
thing. I could be wrong (being a non-techie that probably couldn't get
the above to work anyway) but that stuff looks like it could really suck
up a bit of it?
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