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Re: System Restore Points Disappear

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....winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03-May-26 11:15 PM, Boris wrote:
> > VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote in news:a9b9lzkh59zn$.dlg@v.nguard.lh:
> 
> > None of my restore points that were removed were any near 60 days old, yet
> > all of them were removed.  I suspect it was the one of the two updates I
> > mentioned removed them.
> > 
> No code exists in the last three updates to remove System Restore Points 
> or disable Volume Shadow Copy service.

  Why do you say "or disable Volume Shadow Copy service"? I know System
Restore makes/uses a Volume Shadow Copy, but Boris has a recent (May 1)
Restore Point, so why the comment? But before answering, read on.

[...]

> Yes, $#it can happen....lacking other reports from other admins(100K+ 
> managed devices) and other reports of the same issue for a non-feature 
> monthly update, the only causes known at this time.
>   - Major windows update(feature update)
>   - Space limitation
>   - System Protection disabled(prior to an update)
>   - Volume Shadow Copy service disabled(user or 3rd party software, 
> possible imaging software. Also imaging software disabling where 60 day 
> limit is met

  Since (well, at least after) the April Windows Update updates, I have
a problem with third party backup software (Cobian Backup) which fails
(times out) when trying to make a Volume Shadow Copy. All the services
(including of course the Volume Shadow Copy service) are runningand I am
out of clues (also from Google), no error messages, other than the fact
that it times out (after (configurable) 5 (or 10) minutes.

  So I'm wondering why you're saying what you're saying. Are other
backup software programs also having VSC problems (while the VSC
service *is* running)?

  For the moment, I'll let the VSC fail and the backup continue and will
see if Macrium Reflect (Free) will have similar problems at the next
backup. If so, that will be more worrisome, but also 'better' because
more people will be using Macrium than Cobian, so mor chance of clues/
fixes.

>   - Disk Error
>   - Disk Cleanup (Windows or 3rd party tool)
>   - Resizing partition (Disk Management or 3rd party software)

  I'm sorry to say that ever since November, Windows Update updates have
only giving me problems, instead of fixing things. First few months it
was Windows Update or/and the updates failing. Now (April) it's the
updates *causing* new problems. Sigh! (Please don't ask for a list! I'm
trying to forget the ones I had and concentrate on the one I have.)

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System Restore Points Disappear Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2026-05-03 04:17 +0000
  Re: System Restore Points Disappear VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2026-05-02 23:59 -0500
    Re: System Restore Points Disappear Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2026-05-04 03:15 +0000
      Re: System Restore Points Disappear "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 01:55 -0400
        Re: System Restore Points Disappear Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-05-04 19:27 +0000
          Re: System Restore Points Disappear "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 17:43 -0400
      Re: System Restore Points Disappear Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-04 03:15 -0400
  Re: System Restore Points Disappear Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-05-04 19:02 +0000
    Re: System Restore Points Disappear Boris <nospam@invalid.com> - 2026-05-04 20:27 +0000

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