Re: Intel CPU prices going up?

Subject	Re: Intel CPU prices going up?
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Date	2018-10-21 12:55 -0400

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On 2018-10-21 05:06, Eric Stevens wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:53:25 -0400, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-10-20 22:55, Eric Stevens wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:15:04 -0400, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-10-19 23:27, Eric Stevens wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>> Apart from that, Occam's razor has nothing to do with science.
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> Because the simplest answer is not necessarily the right one.
>>> e.g. Occams razor would favour Newton over Einstein.
>>>
>>
>> Not at all. Newton is still valid, within a smaller scope of reality, is
>> all. That is, the difference between Einstein's and Newton's equations
>> is too small to measure with Newtonian instruments at the scale at which
>> Newton worked. You know, the scale of the high school physics lab.
>> Einstein's equations reduce to Newton's when V/c is "vanishingly small",
>> ie, below the ability to detect it and its effects.

Where's your response to this? Occam's Razor is often used improperly, 
but your example isn't one of them.

>> BTW, when Copernicus proposed his helio-centric model of apparent
>> heavenly motions, the margin of observational error was too large to
>> differentiate between his model and Ptolemy's. But Copernicus's model
>> was and is simpler. Occam's razor in action.

Where's your response to this? It's a text-book example of how Occam's 
razor is used as scientific insight increases.

>> You can't interpret any data without some philosophical and theoretical
>> framework, plus some practical context. Suppose I tell you that some
>> material has a Rockwell hardness of 30N and another has a hardness of
>> 30T. What kind of sense can you make of those two data?
>>
> I've never had cause to use either of those two scales, in fact I have
> always tried to avoid Rockwell. I'm happy with Brinell for ordinary
> steels but prefer Vickers for harder materials. But that data you
> quoted tells me that your two materials are a) soft and b) very soft.
> What is your point?

That numbers, "raw data" are meaningful only within some context. 
Furthermore, there is no such things a raw data. You can't perceive it: 
your brain interprets the raw data from your sensory systems so that you 
perceive soft/hard, etc. Those systems aren't good enough for some 
purposes, so we've developed data-gathering instruments to augment them. 
Just as the brain has to interpret the raw data into hard/soft, we have 
to interpret the raw data in from the instruments. Rockwell/etc scales 
are standardisations of that process.

Context is everything. The context of your global warming denial is your 
conviction that claims of rapid human-caused global warming are part of 
a hoax, a conspiracy to do, er, what, exactly?

Me, I never thought much about climate one way or another until I read 
an article in Science in the mid-70s about climate modelling, whose 
authors were surprised and disturbed by observing that some runs of 
their models showed climate changing very rapidly, on the order of a 
century or two. They had tweaked the models by testing them with known 
weather and climate data. When they plugged in current data, including 
variations to account for the fuzziness of the statistical projections 
of near-future data, the models appeared to misbehave. I found the 
article intriguing, in large part because I began to understand what a 
chaotic system is, and how difficult it is to describe/model it. I 
believed what I had been taught, that climate changed very slowly, on 
scales of millennia and tens of millennia. The notion that it could 
simply flip in a century or less seemed to me bizarre.

So why did I change my mind?

-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"Gentics is not genealogy." (Gragham Coop, Ph.D.)

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