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On 9/6/25 10:37 AM, Paul wrote:
> On Sat, 9/6/2025 11:43 AM, T wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me if this cpu support Windows 11's weird
>> hardware requirements?
>>
>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236783/intel-core-i7-processor-14700k-33m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz/specifications.html?wapkw=i7-14700K
>>
>>
> 
> What is a weird hardware requirement ?
> 
> That thing will smoke Windows 11.
> Pin it to the ground.
> Make it say "Uncle".
> 
> About 50% down this page.
> 
>     https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
> 
> Make sure you have sufficient cooler. For one of my projects, I shrugged
> off the suggestion to use water cooling. But now, when I see articles
> like this, I would not be sticking some 160W air cooler on a thing like this.
> They make a few 250W air coolers, and there is a Chinese vapor chamber cooler
> (can't be bought here) that is better than a Dark Rock (for air coolers).
> 
>     https://www.xda-developers.com/intel-core-i7-14700k-review/
> 
> So while hunting for permission to install Win11 is part of the
> mission, examining what the cooler shall be is also part
> of the project. I don't actively track cooler developments, except
> to take note of claims about some of them. If I didn't have
> one of the coolers in the room, I would not have believed there
> was anything better than a Noctua out there. But there are
> better things, and they're using turbulent circulation as
> the air goes through the cooler.
> 
> A hard part of cooling, is after your cooler makes light
> work of the 14700K, the air coming off the cooler,
> must go right out the back of the tower. If you have
> to augment the VCore cooling, that conflicts with passing
> the VCore out the back of the machine. The airflows for
> that are at 90 degrees to each other. One of the reasons for
> buying the Phanteks, is a fan "above" VCore provides some
> cooling for it, and now all the airflow is downwards, and
> placing an exhaust fan across from the blob of a cooler,
> pulls the warm air out of the case (a bit better). However,
> other aspects of the Phantek (initially my PSU overheating
> because of airflow), make the Phanteks not the best. I
> would have to redo the case with Circuittest 37.5mm deep
> fans, to try to do a better job. The PC stays off most
> of the time, as it is TOO LOUD :-)
> 
> Also, if doing a build, remember that the mass of some of the
> items, tends to bend and torque shit. Which will have you
> seriously considering a horizontal casing, rather than
> a vertical casing. I really wanted to add vertical supports
> to my cooler in the Phanteks case, but the places I need
> to reach to do that, are offset from one another, and
> the vertical support I need to build, is an "odd shape".
> Which is why I haven't done it. Yet.
> 
> The Test Machine has some plastic legs made out of recycled
> plastic plumbing pipe, and that is to take some of the
> twisting force off the cooler (and socket area).
> 
> Even pint-sized video cards now (inoffensive things), they
> are twisting in the PCIe slot. Sad really. Nothing has
> broken yet, but it does not look nice.
> 
> Don't forget to update the BIOS right away. It has the
> newer microcode to protect the CPU. The CPU has *per instruction type*
> voltage boost encoded in the microcode, and that needs to be
> tuned via a new BIOS. The 13 and 14 series had an "aging issue"
> caused by excessive voltage. Think how agile VCore has to be,
> to do that. Your new BIOS will help patch UEFI issues, plus
> take some of the pressure off the CPU on voltage spikes.
> 
> She's going to smoke, the way only an Intel can smoke :-)
> 
> DDR4 is going/is gone out of production, so your mobo
> should be a DDR5 one (in any case).
> 
>     Paul


Thank you!

What do you think of this cooler?

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L7UZMAK
         Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2X NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans

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