Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!news.informatik.hu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Parsons Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server ,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Date: 14 Sep 2015 17:56:20 GMT Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <67c97ed368b8c4b82048776e82b80693@dizum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net qLADw1Mhj6ogJm1S5nF7fAS9X2zVyDFZD1M9wA7ec+oA0ZMn7o Cancel-Lock: sha1:OShIphO2oTUoI/jkfqEzlgCEBDc= User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) Xref: csiph.com alt.comp.freeware:242696 alt.comp.os.windows-10:7975 alt.hacker:7693 comp.os.linux.advocacy:320714 On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 11:50:22 -0600, GreyCloud wrote: > On 09/13/15 13:32, Neil wrote: >> On 9/13/2015 1:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote: >>> >>> I've been hoping for linux developers to merge and agree on some kind >>> of standard, but I've been waiting for over 20 years and no soap yet. >>> But it can be done. >>> >> It's not likely to get done with any open source product because there >> are no "developer's control organizations" that limit the next guy with >> the "better" idea from revising the source code or specs. Even W3C >> (HTML) wasn't able to maintain standards beyond 4.01 so now we have >> "recommended practices", and there are a lot more reasons to >> standardize HTML than for Linux. >> > I think you are right in this regards. There maybe some hope from HPs > "The Machine" project, but I'm not holding my breath. The problem that Linux has is both a benefit and a downside, depending on what you want from desktop Linux. For hobbyists and developers the idea of free and open with all the distros and GUIs is a big plus. But that is what is anathema to a successful commercial product. Canonical made and is still making some very right steps for a commercial products. But much of what they've done has been howled about within the Linux community. They've gone their own way and even added some commercial software into the mix. From a "I want to sell it" point of view, those are great steps. Solid message, good looking product and the right mix of free and commercial software. Unfortunately the Linux community will keep those that might have considered it from even trying it. Such poor attitudes, downright snobby! :( -- Lloyd